LOL Interesting enough, you know Arsenio Hall and Eddie Murphy play every character in that room except for one.
I didn't know that. I thought I saw Eddie Murphy in several roles but I haven't seen Areseno Hall in so long he didn't even register.
Mtn West had a great year, would be topped off with a TCU win in the Fiesta Bowl. They are probably better than the Big East. 4-0 right now...very good chance to go 5-0. Air Force...excellent win for the Flyboys. But Houston is good team/not great Wyoming...excellent win again, but they were 6/6 and their opponent not much better BYU..hung a good win on the Beavers. Top Mtn West vs Top Pac10 team...excellent win. Utah win another good one, but Cal had been fading badly down the stretch. So kudo's for them all but the thing that is missing is that big BCS win this year, TCU may in fact get the win, but too bad they didn't get the Rose Bowl slot vs Ohio State, they certainly deserved that more than Oregon, or the Sugar Bowl Slot vs UF. Maybe even the Orange Bowl slot but win over a Ga.Tech team that didn't look all that powerful vs an average SEC team in a rivalry game at home to end the season. But no doubt the Mtn West right now is an excellent conference. Their top teams try to get good non-conf games to build up their resume and they need to continue to do that and continue to win them.
they've been doing so for 10 years... how much longer is longer? Their wins all get written off as flukes or woulda, coulda shouldas... It's ********. Ten years of excuses? They do well most every year. As my boss (and several other people who locally have finally began to consider my pitch for the MWC)said.. name one Big East team that would be favored over BYU, TCU or Utah.... how many would be favored over Air Force? That 'good' Houston team beat both Texas Tech, Mississippi State and Oklahoma State this year. The Zoomies manhandled them. You can disparage their bowl opponents all you want, but somehow those teams are 'tough' during the year but don't count for a hill of beans come bowl time. How does that make sense? Fresno lost to Wisconsin, Boise State, Cincinnati, and Nevada during the regular season. Fresno outgained Wisconsin at Wisconsin but 3 TOs and a Wiscy FG in TWO overtimes did them in. Wyoming's bowl opponent was down by their standards, but they are better than teams like say.... Northwestern..
Also, it should be mentioned that 'bad' MWC teams like Wyoming have won At Tennessee, At Mississippi and AT Virginia... just all in the past 5 years. I ran over the numbers above so I shall not repeat em again. This is just a crime. If this year doesn't prove to you that the networks run college football, nothing will.
Sorry my sense of outrage doesn't approach yours. The outrage I see is that Oregon was in the Rose Bowl vs a good BCS opponent when TCU or Boise State deserved that position! Oregon should have been shuttled to the Orange Bowl.
If you're going to be outraged, it should have been that Cincinnati was playing Florida. Oregon had beaten USC at USC... Ohio State had lost to them at home.. as well as Ohio State lost to Purdue (another team Oregon beat)... if that's what you're outraged over, you're compass is off or you're going so far out of your way to try to get a rile out of me you've lost all sense of direction.. That Cinci team is the worst BCS bowl team I've seen since Hawaii got prison raped by Georgia. I know most ND fans don't want to admit this, but we just hired a guy who hasn't really put much of an emphasis on the running game and you just got reminded what great defenses do to people who can't run the ball. I'm worried we may be seeing a lot of this in the future. So you're great fraud is Oregon, while mine is Cinci... Do you really want to try to stack up the Pac10's regular season/bowl/all-time record vs the Big East (and I'll even let you keep Miami, VTech and BC in the scenario)? There is no excuse.. NONE for the Big East to be a BCS conference while the MWC is on the outside looking in.
Well Cinci had to play somebody, you're complaint was that TCU and Boise weren't given matchups that allowed them to prove a point. I'm saying I agree with you and that TCU should have been in the Rose Bowl or Sugar Bowl and Boise should have been in the Rose Bowl/Sugar Bowl. Cinci should have been playing Ga.Tech in the Orange Bowl and Iowa should have played Oregon in the Fiesta Bowl. I preferred the TCU/Ohio State and Boise State/UF matchups myself.
There are those that believe a TCU/Bama matchup would be the best I understand your statement that they 'had to play somebody' but why are they a BCS conference? TCU is playing Boise because it fits this idiotic system and those are the spots afforded to them. This tiered system of haves and have nots just isn't working.
What? You off the Boise State band wagon? I mean after all TCU's non-conf schedule didn't include a win over Pac10 champ Oregon. Virgina...a bad team that got their coach fired. Texas State...nuff said Clemson....good road win, but Clemson didn't get rolling till the end of the year, they weren't as good early when TCU played them as they were later in the seaons...they started 2-3. Even lost to a bad Maryland team. SMU...decent win but not impressive.
Clemson played for the ACC title. They rather easily handled a MWC that no one else could. It's not about 'bandwagon's' It's about what quite literally is segregation in college football. We need to evolve as a sport. We're stuck in an archaic system of haves and have nots and it's gotta go.
Yes Clemson played for the ACC title, but as I said they were not the same team that played for the ACC title when TCU played them. They got off to a 2-3 start. They were an average ACC team at that point, which as you know an avg ACC team isn't that great.
When TCU played Clemson, the Tigers came into that game 2-1 and had just beaten Boston College 25-7. Their lone loss to that point was to the team that would eventually beat them in the ACC title game, Georgia Tech. (a 30-27 loss AT Georgia Tech) But as I said, with the teams like the MWC there is always an excuse.. there is always something to diminish what they've done. Meanwhile, when teams from 'the big boy' conferences win they are known as 'defining moments in the season.'
Hey I'm not comparing TCU to anybody but Boise State who in previous years was your standard bearer for the wronged. Now you've abandoned Boise State when they have a bigger non-conf win than TCU. I don't understand why.
is this straw man Sunday? this isn't about Boise... they were the example of teams wronged in those years because they were wronged. Undefeated or not... I still put them behind Texas, Alabama, TCU and perhaps even Florida this year. That's just how it is.. The hard knock on Boise is that the WAC just isn't going to get a lot better. There are maybe 3 or 4 real programs in the whole conference. Now the Mountain West.. not only am I saying they are wronged, but I am furthering that point to say they should either be admitted as a BCS conference with an autobid OR replace the Big East as a BCS conference. There is nothing, and I mean nothing, you can put out there to suggest that in the past 10 years (because that's all that seems to count these days) to show the Big East belongs in the BCS while the MWC does not. The bottom feeders of the MWC go into Pac10 and SEC venues and walk away with wins. Its rare when the Big East champ can make such a claim, let alone the middling or bottom feeder teams...