Trump prepared to tear the country apart

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  1. Motorcity Gator

    Motorcity Gator Well-Known Member

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    Agreed Stu it looks like a mess coming in November and unless somehow Trump pulls off another miracle win he seems prepared to drag the results and our democracy around in the mud for weeks afterward.
     
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    You mean like the Dems for the past four years?
     
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    Al Gore and Hilary Clinton both won the popular vote vs. the GOP candidate yet both accepted the decision with class in order to protect our democratic process.
    Trump may change his mind before November but as McEnany says he's not certain if he will accept the election results and he has proven throughout those 4 years he just doesn't give a damn about our history, protocol and our democracy.
    He is so desperate to win I suspect he may be subject to some sort of criminal action if he is not the sitting president.... and maybe that is what drives him so.
     
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    Yeah, lots of class in Bush and Trump's treatment by the left. Hillary has accepted her loss with as much class as a whiny toddler. In case you forgot or never knew...the popular vote has nothing to do with anything.

    You don't have to like Trump...I get that...but you need to get a grip. If he wins the election you guys will start talking about how he won't leave in four years. Get a grip.
     
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    So how much kicking and screaming and inciting of his base do you think would happen in this election if the exact same thing happened again but to Trump this time?
    Seriously..... that would be a disaster and possibly dangerous to Americans.
     
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    You can already see the Dem strategy. First go to mail in balloting which of course is in the hands of the Biden endorsed postal union. We got a good look at how they operate in the last midterm in Cal. 4 races which ended up with Republicans winning on election day were flipped when the Dems showed up days later with "harvested" ballots. There are plenty of other examples of vote fraud including the Senate "wins" of LBJ and Al Franken.
    So now when the election turns out fraudulent, Trump will have a difficult time getting the fraud exposed because we've been bombarded with all this bullcrap about him not leaving. Never put it past the no conscience left to do whatever it takes to get power.
     
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    "Never put it past the no conscience left to do whatever it takes to get power."

    Most times getting more votes are what it takes.
     
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    If they can’t pull off the mail in without glitches, which I seriously doubt, there will be plenty of kicking and screaming no matter who wins. And not just the presidency.
     
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    Seems like Trump and LeJoy have done their best to guarantee glitches.... and therefore an excuse to kick and scream.
     
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    The "division" you and Democratic politicians is nothing more than your side not having the White House. Trump didn't "divide" the country, the left never accepted the results of our last presidential election. The day after his inauguration, there were the gutter crowds in the streets chanting "not our president." As he tried to accomplish the promises he made during his campaign he was thwarted and resisted time and again. The wall wasn't funded. Travel bans from countries that didn't properly vent possible terrorists were enjoined by 9th Circuit district judges. The completely false Russian Collusion hoax together with the falsely initiated Mueller probe used up thousands of man hours of the White House. Then there was the spiteful Impeachment. You on the left claim that a Democrat with "heal the division." HORSESHIT!
     
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    Yeah I guess Trump couldn't get Mexico to pay for the wall as Trump promised during his campaign.

    Key Findings of the Mueller Report | ACS

    The Special Counsel investigation uncovered extensive criminal activity

    • The investigation produced 37 indictments; seven guilty pleas or convictions; and compelling evidence that the president obstructed justice on multiple occasions. Mueller also uncovered and referred 14 criminal matters to other components of the Department of Justice.
    • Trump associates repeatedly lied to investigators about their contacts with Russians, and President Trump refused to answer questions about his efforts to impede federal proceedings and influence the testimony of witnesses.
    • A statement signed by over 1,000 former federal prosecutors concluded that if any other American engaged in the same efforts to impede federal proceedings the way Trump did, they would likely be indicted for multiple charges of obstruction of justice.
    • And let's add the latest on ex-Trump aide Steve Bannon being criminally charged with fraud stemming from his corrupt wall funding actions. No wonder it wasn't funded eh? Maybe a good thing it wasn't. And more than half the country didn't want to spend money on the damn thing anyway.
     
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    Not one ******* indictment had to do with the Trump campaign colluding with the Russians. Some indictments like Flynn"s were pure corrupt FBI misconduct.
    So Trump "obstructed" an investigation predicated on a completely fraudulent dossier? Give me a fuckin break.
    Somebody should ask those liberal federal prosecutors if Hillary, McCabe, Comey, Strzok, Paige, Biden and Obama should have been indicted. They disgracefully relied on false filings in the FISA court and illegally spied on the Trump campaign.
     
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    RNC Convention theme: If you aren't indicted you aren't invited.... :)
     
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    DNC Convention theme: If you aren't sharp mentally, we've got your candidate.
     
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    "DeJoy was unequivocal that the Postal Service would be able to handle the volume of mail that an expected surge in ballots will cause heading into November.
    Democrats have accused the Postal Service of making cuts that will harm the election, which President Donald Trump has repeatedly attacked. Even top union officials have raised concerns that USPS will not be able to deliver mail-in ballots on time.
    At Friday's hearing, DeJoy said it was his top priority to make sure the election mail runs smoothly."

    OK then.... voting by mail will not be a problem..... election results crisis averted..... STFU DJT!
     
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    Nothing has been done to inhibit the Postal Service. The have the ability to handle the ballots. The glitches will be at the Boards of Election. The one and only thing the Post Office and DeJoy have said is that in the states that have a deadline of 3 days before the election to even REQUEST a mail in ballot, there is no way they can guarantee getting the ballots back in before the deadline for submission.
     
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    The second ranking Republican in the Senate Thune said this as reported on Fox News:
    "In the Trump era, it’s rare to see a GOP leader in Congress publicly disagree with President Trump on an issue of great importance to the president.

    But that’s what happened this week when Sen. John Thune of South Dakota – the second highest-ranking Republican in the Senate – pushed back when questioned about Trump’s monthslong crusade against expanding voting by mail.

    GOP LEADERS PUSH BACK AFTER TRUMP SUGGESTS DELAYING ELECTION

    Asked if he agreed with the president’s repeated charges that mailed-in balloting will lead to a “rigged election” and “massive voter fraud,” the Senate majority whip told reporters, “I don’t.”

    “Mailed-in voting has been used in a lot of places for a long time and, honestly, we’ve got a lot of folks that, as you know, they're investing heavily in trying ... to win that war. It's always a war too for mail-in ballots. Both sides compete, and it's always an area where I think our side, at least in my experience, has done pretty well,” Thune answered, adding: “I think we want to assure people it's going to work, it's secure and if they vote that way it's going to count.”
     
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    Well I think we're going to get to see just how well it works. Probably ok in states that have done it for years. But this will possibly be a total fiasco...and you, Dave, will undoubtedly blame it on Trump.
     
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    First you have the Dem morons that couldn't declare a winner of the Iowa primary. Then you have the toads who screw up the counting in Broward and Palm Beach county every big election. Then we have Oregon where the winner of the elections are usually not known for days after election day because they vote by mail. Now were going to get a country full of late results and screwed up counting.
     
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    It's OK LeJoy has assured the nation that the mail-in voting will be accurate and reflect the true winner in November and I believe him....... and so should the Liar-in-Chief.
     
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