LOL IC .... I see you still refuse to state which of the teams would be recognized as the Pac-10 "champ" .... because there would not be a "champ" ..... but co-champions. Thus, you would be acknowledging the Pac-10's system is not superior to others, but in fact inferior to other football conferences. 8) BTW, I do like these quotes: And interesting you would make this observation based upon the SEC using a round-robin format for determining its divisional winners, as it says much about how you view the annual Pac-10 champ or champs.