USF gets jacked because it's Miami.... bros from S. Florida. Kentucky gets jacked because it's the SEC.... a hated SEC foe that beats them down every year and their fans talk the trash to prove they hate UF. I was there the last time they won and was amazed at the in your face ******** I was getting from Kentucky fans..... like they cared... :lol: :lol:
Kansas, K-State, and Iowa State all hated Neb..but that didn't stop the Huskers from absolutely owning those teams every year for over 30 straight years. Conference rival or not, hated foe or not, they still suck and lose.
Give it a rest Dave. Kentucky sux. The only thing you had to worry about was a look ahead... and even then you were still going to win. Not every team in the SEC is a gut wrenching challenge. LSU and Bama, yeah. Ole Miss is going to be a tough roadie for us because of our wounded defense... the rest of the west we should walk on.
I thought Ark was a decent challenge for A&M.... or so it appeared. Ole Miss s/b a challenge..... but they didn't fare as well last week as I thought they might. I think I said Ky was the worst in the SEC and they are..... but even though wins are almost guaranteed for UF vs. Ky it still is a road game in the SEC that can have physical consequences down the road if not W/L consequences. I don't think Les Miles feels like his team is getting a post Georgia break this Sat. even though chances are slim his team would lose to MissSt although UF can never seem to win in Mississippi.
How about Ga.Tech and Clemson? Do you think those are considered physical tough opponents like a SEC opponent. I know that you have excuses as to why FSU under Bowden had the upper hand vs the Gators/Spurrier, I guess they weren't a physical tough opponent since they weren't an SEC opponent.
Every league has big physical teams... not just the SEC. (Okay... maybe not the Bevo 12, but I digress.) To say that smacking Kentucky around is worse than trading punches with Stanford or Clemson... well I think that speaks for itself. Arkansas was a challenge for our depleated defense... but had it not been for the rain, the Aggie offense coulda/woulda put 60 on the Hogs. We had two TD drives in which Manziel did nothing but hand off - no passes. The OL and RB's just bludgeoned them. They didn't stop us... we stopped ourselves a few times. The SEC is a very tough league, but they aren't the only one that plays real football.
FSU only had the upper hand back in the 90s when the SEC Title game was the week immediately following the UF-FSU game. That has not been the case now for several years..... including the last 2 or 3 SEC Title games the Gators played in because it's a two week spread now. Excuses?.... You're not being realistic if back in the 90s you don't think playing a top ranked Bowden coached FSU team was a helluva distraction the week before the SEC Title game. Yes I do think Ga Tech and Clemson play to a physical level that can be a hindrance to the Seminoles and the ACC in general has proven to be a fairly good obstacle in keeping the noles from returning to national prominence since their last NC in 1999.
Not the case Terry even when it was a week before the SEC Title game but emotionally....intensity wise etc. Spurrier always chose winning the SEC Championship over beating the nolies.
OK let me get this straight...Spurrier didn't emphasize the game, and didn't try to get the team up for it, sort of let it slide...if you won you won but if not no big deal? You sound like a typical Michigan fan (not Bobda), when they played ND, it wasn't a B10 game so it didn't really count, only B10 and Rose Bowl counted. Since both teams were loaded with Fla kids who played against each other in High School...I'll bet those kids didn't see it that way.
You are correct in saying that when it was the week before an SEC Title game that UF was a part of and he was very vocal about it in those days. He was a bit rankled that FSU rebuffed initial efforts to move the game with UF away from that weekend before. The point is that Spurrier knew the significance of such successive week -to-week scheduling and that one team loses an edge to the other when the other has no such game the week before. UF played that game very successfully with Georgia for many years..... having an open date before the Ga game while the Dawgs were playing an SEC opponent the week before. Over the past few years it has been Georgia more often than not scheduling the open date the week before playing Florida while UF has been mostly playing the week before such as last year when UF played SouCar the week before Ga.... and lost their only regular season game to the Dawgs. It's something I have discussed here before.... and when it comes to 19-20 year old kids playing week after week while another team rests I think the team resting has a decided advantage.
I'm trying to sort out your convoluted logic and determine which side you're going to try to argue next... First option is, does Florida have the advantage next weekend since they had an off weekend against Kentucky last weekend, whereas Arkansas played A&M? Or, since Kentucky has such a knockdown, dragout approach to football (as every team that has ever had the God's grace to play in that most holy of conferences, the SEC) that Arkansas has the advantage, because Florida can only be up for one game a year (that being the SECCG, never mind the BSCG)? Or, since every team in the SEC is equal, ranked #1a-#1n in talent and physicality, are both Florida and Arkansas up for a let-down game after getting beat up by those fine, physical specimen (yes, I'm still talking about Kentucky here, too)? Regardless of which you select (or, my guess, none of the above) your continued defense of indefensible statements is laughable. So in response, my takeaway from this conversation is that Spurrier, and his players, decided to half-ass the game because the SECCG was the following weekend. RIIIIIIGHT.
I didn't make that up about Spurrier and FSU and the SEC Title game. He wouldn't publicly admit it of course but it was much publicized how he griped about it..... and certainly it being FSU I'm not suggesting the players were taking the day off and later on in the 90s either UF wasn't in the SEC Title game or they had to beat FSU to hopefully advance to a national title scenario.. so beating FSU and winning the SEC Title a week later was crucial to NC hopes.... although it was a very tough task. RE: Ky vs. TexA&M I would say Ark had the tougher of the two assigments for sure..... but hard to say on that one if UF gained any real advantage. If UF had had an off day last Saturday then yes.... I would have said advantage Florida. This is not a new argument for me.... I have made it before and I stick to it. So I take it you and Terry feel that Michigan truly is only a very late TD and a 4 point win better than an Akron team that was 1-11 last season.
I gotta toss some contradicting evidence in here. Last year, the Aggies played 12 straight games - never had a bye week. They improved every week, and by the end of the year were arguably playing some of the best ball in the country. So... we NEVER got a rest... and the grind of physical opponents not only didn't degrade the team's performance, it made it better. Hmmm.... :roll:
First year in the SEC..... hmmmm..... doesn't seem too hard to get absolutely jacked for every single conference game in your first year. So what did happen with Michigan vs. Akron...... are the Zips better than Notre Dame???
Maybe that is it Corey. Probably isn't that Michigan couldn't climb back up the mountain after playing a highly charged intense game vs. the Irish the week before because those things just don't matter...... Good thing Michigan wasn't playing Kentucky that week cause the Cats beat another 1-4 MAC team..... Miami of Ohio.... by a score of 41-7.
but then what about the next week when they squeaked by UCONN 27-24? Over the years, you've placed a varying degree of emphasis on head to head or strength of schedule depending on which ever suited your needs at the immediate moment. You've shown no consistency at all and never once paid any tribute to the possibility that the teams are individual entities made up of a fluctuating collection of individuals whose performance is dependent upon any number of countless variables on any given Saturday. The truth of the matter is that we're all just guessing when it comes to outcomes. All we can really do is attempt to reward those who have achieved and/or proven the most. Now, what is the real measure of achievement? That's the question we've all been asking. The reason you see your opinion discounted is because your position on merit achievement centers around whichever variable best suits your argument to make the case for (in order): -The Florida Gators -Any SEC team that has fewer losses than Florida and holds a possibility of playing for the National Title. (but even then, you still insinuate that Florida is/was better, but due to some Gator-centric variable that led to them being denied that opportunity).