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  1. Sid

    Sid Well-Known Member

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    LOL!
     
  2. gipper

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    And Jimbo responds

    http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2016/04/12/harbaugh-blasts-knee-jerk-decision-ban-camps/82958542/
     
  3. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    The one thing I'm not buying is the whole we're helping kids who don't have the money to come to Ann Arbor for our camps. Oh please. I'm sorry not buying that as the reason he wanted to go around the country and have camps. Bottom line was he wanted to do something different to get Michigan football out there and to be able to see players in the South more than just on film and during home visits. It was always all about him getting an edge in recruiting not him being a humanitarian.

    A lot of agreement though that the NCAA went to far when they eliminated other coaches from working Michigan or any Power 5 teams camps. Everybody agrees that it was a good thing for MAC coaches and other coaches of smaller programs around the country to be able to see kids in these camps.
     
  4. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    Hugh Freeze fires back.

    http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2016/04/13/hugh-freeze-jim-harbaugh-camps/82976200/

    FWIW, it's clear Harbaugh is one of the best coaches in football and it's clear he's all in on bringing Michigan back to the level the had with Bo and Lloyd and even higher. If I'm a UM fan I like what he's doing and the enthusiasm he's showing and the level of commitment to getting the job done. I might think some of them are a little off, sleep overs, and couldn't imagine Bo or Lloyd doing them. But it's an indication of his desire and commitment to getting the job done. Even this dust up over camps plays into his hand as it keeps him in the spotlight. Now all he has to do is beat Urban and Ohio State!
     
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    Terry,
    What is the indicator that Harbaugh is one of the best coaches in college football? I have heard this about Sumlin, Malzahn, Rodriguez, and many more, and look at where they are now? Let's just wait and see.
     
  6. gipper

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    Well.... first he guided the University of San Diego to back to back 11-1 seasons. He moved on to Stanford and beat USC like a drum. He went to the 49ers and unlike many college coaches who can't make it on the next level, he took the 49ers to the Super Bowl. I'd say that the guy can coach.
     
  7. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    No doubt kp if the sole measurement is Nat'l Championships, then it's no contest it's Saban and Urban Meyer and then a bunch of other guys.

    But it's pretty clear if you look at his track record, he took a weak private school like Univ of San Diego and lost something like 1 game in 2 years. Then he moved to Stanford which was just awful when he arrived and when he left they were a top 10 program. He went to San Francisco and built them into a Super Bowl team. Next at UM he took a 5-7 squad and built them quickly back into a very good team that won 10 games and dominated a SEC opponent in it's bowl. So it's pretty safe to say he's a very good coach and really most people had him as one of the top 5 coaches when he left Stanford for the NFL. I doubt if anybody has changed their minds.

    He's a little weird though! Great coach.

    I will be surprised if he isn't extremely successful at getting Michigan back to being one of the top programs.

    But I get your point. :) And for the record any Mich coach is my enemy!! :)
     
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    Has he coached anywhere for more than 3 or 4 years? He won 2 championships at San Diego with someone else's recruits....didn't he? How long was he at Stanford? He may turn out to be great but I remember some folks talking about Shiano at Rutgers a few years ago as being a great coach and I think I will wait and see. He does know how to get things stirred up though.
     
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    :idea:

    A lot of guys from my old high school played for Harbaugh at San Diego, including the son of a friend of mine. The players said that he was the greatest coach they ever played for; a real players coach who made the game fun.
     
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    It just seems like we say this sort of thing about relatively young coaches all of the time and a lot of them just seem to sink back into the crowd. I hear y'all, I guess I'll just wait and see. Of course, I said the same thing about Saban when he came to Alabama, so what do I know. 8)
     
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    When Harbaugh was the Colts' QB, everyone here loved his grit and competitiveness. When he became a coach, he turned into a sh*thead. When he coached Stanford, he was crass toward ND (related, I'm sure, to his Michigan roots). On the sidelines, he's a whiner. He may or may not be a great coach. Time will tell. All I know is that I don't care for him or his antics.
     
  12. Bobdawolverweasel

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    When Harbaugh took over at both San Diego and Stanford, both programs were in horrid shape. Within a few years, he turned both into outstanding programs.

    When he took over the 49ers, they had not won a playoff game since 2002. He led them to one NFC championship and three straight conference championship games. The only other coaches who have taken an NFL team post merger to three straight chamionship games reads like a shortlist of some of the best coaches in NFL history: Bill Belichick, Andy Reid, Mike Holmgren, Marv Levy, Tom Landry, John Madden, Chuck Knox, Chuck Noll and Don Shula. If you want to go pre-merger, add the names like Lombardi and Gillman.

    Harbaugh has not been a head coach for a terribly long time. But, to ignore what he has accomplished in his relatively short career and suggest that time will only tell if he is a flash in the pan is an argument oblivious to reality.
     
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    I've never liked Harbaugh going back to his days at Michigan...but that has nothing to do with his coaching ability. He's a great coach, unlikely to go the route of Rich Rodriques or Kevin Sumlin, or whoever. I'd be shocked if he doesn't make the playoffs at Michigan in his 1st 5 years. He had a better season than Saban had coming back from the NFL and was more successful than Saban in the NFL. But Nick's kicked ass since coming back, will be hard for anybody, even Urban Meyer to duplicate what Saban has accomplished at Alabama. But I expect Michigan and Harbaugh to be one of the top programs over the next 5 years.

    Of course being a ND fan, I hope he fails but that's just rivalry talking. :)
     
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    For Sid and TOK:

    Your names are removed for invites to the next dabbing party:

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    LOL! Darn!
     
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    I guess we'll see. Of course again thats what I said about Saban.
     
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    This ruling is really unpopular with a lot of southern coaches as well. I read a good article at al.com about it the other day. It offers a more clear perspective on what these camps were really all about, and why they were a good thing.

    http://highschoolsports.al.com/news...tellite-camps-really-hurt-poor-kids-as-usual/

    This does nothing but hurt kids and the rhetoric surrounding the issue really had nothing to do with the issue at all. South Alabama ran a camp at Decatur HS the past few years that allowed schools from all over the South to get a look at kids they wouldn't have the budget to find normally. So parents, such as myself, will have to find ways to shell out money that we don't have to give our kid the opportunity to be seen at on-site camps. Those camps can run from $30 to $500 plus. That doesn't cover travel, hotel etc.

    Since Carson won't be attending the Michigan camp here locally now, I'll probably take a day trip to Knoxville instead. I'll probably try to hit the day camp for Miss State as well. Since 2 of Carson's older friends will be enrolling at LSU next semester, I assume it's only a matter of time until he asks about that camp.

    BTW, he is still dead set on going to California this summer. If there's any day camps out there while he is visiting, feel free to register and take him.
     
  19. Bobdawolverweasel

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    What we have here is a failure to communicate....

    https://mobile.twitter.com/slmandel/status/722930602962395136?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
     
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    Guerrero is the UCLA rep for the Pac12 and an absolute idiot.