Tebow Watch

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  1. PJMIII

    PJMIII New Member

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    Good to hear that he appears to be OK. As for the Gators, this bye week certainly couldn't have come at a better time.
     
  2. Stu Ryckman

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    How much of a lead is enough before it's piling on and risking your 1st string players?

    I would opine that a 28-7 lead isn't enough in the third quarter...Purdue very nearly came back from that deficit in the fourth quarter just last week.

    So 31-7 isn't that far off. In the OSU game Pryor stayed in against the Illinois when we had a comfortable 23-0 lead in the fourth quarter...and threw a fourth down pass instead of taking a field goal...was that piling on? Maybe...doesn't seem like Tressel's style to run it up but Zook certainly wasn't happy.
     
  3. Motorcity Gator

    Motorcity Gator Well-Known Member

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    As I explained....UF had the ball a measly 2:30 in 3rd quarter before Tebow came in to start the 10 play drive from his own 26.

    At 7:34 to go in the 3rd qtr you have the cold 2nd stringer come in and throw an int deep in his own territory with a 24 point lead and....I think you get the picture.

    You don't do that in modern football.
     
  4. Gator Bill

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    Here's an article about Tebow playing at that point in the game. I pretty much agree with this guys analysis.

    Tebow Still In Game
     
  5. Stu Ryckman

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    He's a football player...he was playing football.
     
  6. Motorcity Gator

    Motorcity Gator Well-Known Member

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    You guys know me....and know this irked me....most especially after Tebow's injury:

    "The left sideline side judge- I'm not kidding about this one either. Two plays prior, the side judge called a bogus holding penalty on Gator TE Aaron Hernandez, which backed up the offense, leading to the passing play where Tebow was hit."

    These guys DO get paid for their work and sometimes....like on this obviously botched call....they should get docked.

    I would like to see replay review include penalties.
     
  7. HUSKERMAN-HUSKERFAN

    HUSKERMAN-HUSKERFAN Well-Known Member

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    I'm gonna start smoking cigars just because of that statement. Send me some will ya Stu?
     
  8. Gator Bill

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    Stu, some people have the knack of saying in a few words what some of us take paragraphs to say. You hit it.
     
  9. PJMIII

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    You're blaming the officials for Tebow getting hurt? Holy cow. That's really hard to believe.

    PJ in Jersey
     
  10. Tennessee Tom

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    How hard is that to believe? He blames the officials for everything. The officials kept him in the game longer... not his coach... not him wanting to pad his heisman stats in a game that was already out of control... but the officials making a "bogus call".

    Dave was right... We do know him. If that had come from someone that never blames the officials for anything, it might have been believable. From Dave, it was expected.
     
  11. Tennessee Tom

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    I have stayed away from this snowball rolling down hill. I think everyone here has seen me post that I hate to see any of these kids get hurt. It is a dangerous sport though. They do get hurt.

    I wish Tim the best in a speedy recovery. I also hope that all coaches learn from this. When you have a "franchise player" like this kid is, you take him out when the game is decided. When you are up by 24 points, essentially 4 scores, you have enough of a lead to get your back-up some game speed reps for the time that he might have to take over.
     
  12. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    I think that is good advice Tom, but if Tebow only played the first half and parts of the 3rd Qtr and lost the Heisman to McCoy because Mack played McCoy more and McCoy built up bigger stats that would be a problem of some degree to Meyer. Last year Stoops played Bradford almost to the end of most games and was throwing to score the whole time to do 2 things rack up points for OU so voters would be impressed and get them into the BCS Champ game and to build incredible stats for Bradford who road them to the Heisman Trophy.
     
  13. Motorcity Gator

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    Patrick/Tom,

    I am going to surmise that you didn't read Bill's article that he posted.

    The writer maintained the same argument as I regarding a boneheaded call negating the TD keeping Tebow in the game a few more plays.

    Sure it is circumstantial but nonetheless it is prudent.
     
  14. Tennessee Tom

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    Then the writer is a bonehead and the article is a bonehead article. It must be true... you're reading it in print here. :roll:
     
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    You can say that again.... :shock:

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  16. Gator Bill

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    I didn't post the article because of the referee's call. The penalty was called and the game went on, you can't blame that for Tebow's injury.
     
  17. Motorcity Gator

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    Bill....I look at things with a "If A....then B" type of logic.

    That penalty isn't called.....Tebow is off the field because of the TD.....not to return to the game.

    Now penalties are part of the game to be sure but when I saw the replay on this one it was horse manure. Therefore a botched call inadvertantly left Tebow out on the field only to be injured on a pass attempt that ultimately was a result of the lost yardage.

    We know for sure what would have happened because Demps ran into the endzone for a TD on the play. We KNOW that is a fact and Tebow would have been through for the day.

    A doesn't happen......B doesn't happen....period.
     
  18. Terry O'Keefe

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    What's the latest on Tebow? I hope that he's not rushed back into action because he is so valuable to the Gators. I know LSU is a big game, but not worth further injury and worse to Tim.
     
  19. Tennessee Tom

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    That, I will agree with.
    What evidence do you have that points to this conclusion? Why was he not already off the field?

    Dave, You have a history of blaming Refs for everything in history short of the holocaust. That is the only fact in evidence in this entire argument.
     
  20. George Krebs

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    That's quite a theory, Dave. Where do you come down on Big Foot?