Teams better than Miami...

The best defense is to be offensive... or something like that. :wink:

 

Last time I saw Miami on TV they were getting lit up for 51. Not even the Irish have suffered that fate. :lol:

 

re: Ty

Guys, I love ya but I think its time to find a new whipping boy. And when did we start giving Tom Lemming props around here?

There are all kinds of teams out there playing freshmen and sophomores in key roles and thriving. That dog don't hunt for me.

Maybe our coaches are not adept at recognizing true talent, regardless of how many stars are behind their names. Maybe they just don't coach that well. Maybe having Quinn, Shark, McKnight, Fasano, Harris , Walker, Ndukwe etc. coveres a lot of "sins" that we were unaware of.

I don't know that any of these theories are true but they are as plausible as blaming a coach who is three years removed.

 

hunting dogs

<t>they play key roles George...<br/>
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but they aren't asked to be:<br/>
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-key players<br/>
-skill players<br/>
-offensive line<br/>
-backbone of the team<br/>
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Toss in our opening slate of GT, @ Penn State and @ Michigan... you get what we got.<br/>
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Hey, at least Lemming admitted he's wrong... and note...of a horse sh*t class, there's only 7 of them left.<br/>
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You are right about Quinn Inc being able to put some lipstick on the pig.. but that doesn't excuse the fact that the pig was already there.</t>

 

Brady wasn't Brady before CW got here and I'd never even heard of Shark until the '05 season. I still believe that Charlie can coach, and don't think there are that many sins. Really.

It's tough to win against top competition when you have 22 frosh and sophomores on your 2-deep depth chart. But George is right, that isn't all Ty's fault. He was fired in November of '04 and Charlie wasn't brought on until February of '05. I know Charlie tried his best to recruit but you know damn well Belichick had him on a short leash and busy on their way to a third Super Bowl. When you follow up the disastrous '04 class with a whiff like they had in '05 that makes for back-to-back recruiting bombs that are hard to cover up.

We've all complained about the O-line. It's made up of two sophomores, a 5th year center that plays like a walk on, and two juniors who weren't rated in the top 25 at their postions coming out of high school. I know we can all name a player (like Tim Ruddy or Andy Heck) that played like a star as a sophomore but most O-linemen take two years to learn how to play at this level, and most dominating lines have a heavy senior presence. The kids will be good someday; I really believe that and I've only had two beers (so far) to drink.

 

"When Zook was fired, there wasn't one Florida fan that complained about the talent that he was bringing in. They complained that he couldn't win with the talent that was there"

Amen to that...

Now I have a question....

With same three year opportunity what do you think Spurrier would be doing with ND right now compared to Chollie?

 

You can't answer that question except to say that Spurrier is one of the great college coaches of All-Time...proven on the field. You have to assume that he would have accomplished at least as much as Charlie has at ND.

Plus Spurrier would have been able to take over right away and build a staff based on his long contacts in college football and he would have been able to hit the recruiting trail much sooner and being a coach who everybody knows to be a winner vs a coach who not a lot of people even knew who he was, would have most likely brought in a better class in 2005. We'd probably have a good contingent of Jr OL's this year.

But it's all speculation. I believe Spurrier would never accept a job at ND, I believe he'd take the Tenn job before he'd take the ND job.

 

... and there are many at Tennessee that have changed their minds and would welcome him. After last week, I could possibly be convinced to join that group. :shock:

 

The thing of it is that I was among legions of Florida fans who were miffed that Machen and Foley whiffed on getting Spurrier back and instead landing a hot shot young coach from Utah that many schools like ND coveted.

I guess Foley is pretty damned smart hiring Urbs but I don't think The OBC would have done too badly either.

 

8) We'll see when Bama plays South Carolina.......Love to have Old Ball Coach come up on top.

Did anyone know that Spurrier lobbied hard to get Dolphin's coaching position after Jimmy Johnson left???...the rest is bad history for the Dolphins and Spurrier (Skins too)

 

Why do we have to play Texas AM tonite?? PUT IT ON PAUSE?

<t>ND has some problems that wont go away for about three years at the very least</t>

 

It started with the city of Miami in his rear view mirror! The bliss is not dependent on the coach. It has been going on for over a century, it will continue. The Tide rolls on and on!

 

8) KP....Saban has a notorious history for imploding.....enjoy his good side while you can....but don't count on continuity.

He bombed in the NFL and showed a raspy and acidic character that wasn't that becoming of a class individual.....not to speak of his lies to the Dolphin organization, the players, his coaches and the fans....rather gauche.

Then the question remains whether Arkansas was a quality win.....I am not so sure although the win at the last moment of the game was certainly thrilling

 

Gauche? Football Coach? Gonzo put down the Brie and Brandy! You know, what would the press have done to Saban if he had come out before the end of Miami's season and said that he was considering moving to Alabama. They would have hounded him relentlessly and been even more of a distraction. The effect on the team itself could have been worse. I'm not saying Saban was really even thinking about switching then but if he was his only hope of keeping the sportswriters at bay was to try to make them believe there was no story. And did you read what I wrote? Alabama has been at the top of college football for over a century. Even Coach Bryant was only with us for about 25 years of that. I can't believe someone from Miami is talking to me about someone at Alabama being "gauche". :lol:

 

"Alabama has been at the top of college football for over a century."

Hmmm....there have been a few down years in that period where the Tide was not necessarily at the top Kp.

 

There's your example of "gauche." What a tool!

 

Maybe I misunderstand what KP is saying Sid.

I read it as Bama has been at THE top of college football for 100 years.

Maybe I need to go back and see why Kp is making that statement....

 

MCG,
You're kidding right? You really thought I was saying that Alabama never had a down period in over 100 years? Now I see why you feel the need to applaud every single success that UFG has. You are absolutely correct. Alabama has had losing seasons and down periods in the last 100 years. My point, obviously not made very well, is that Alabama has won NC's stretching back 100 years. Not every year! Please let me make it perfectly clear! We did not win a NC every year for the last 100 years. What I was trying to convey was that for the last 100 years Alabama has had periods of success that resulted in periodic NC's. Multiple coaches, multiple decades, multiple conferences, some are disputable, but the bottom line and the response to Gonzo was meant to imply that Saban is now our coach, but our legacy does not rest on one man. If he decides to move on in a couple of years, then so be it, the Tide will roll on. That's all. Geez!

 

8) Notre Dame scores !!!!...it only took 180 plays !!!!

ND still ranks dead last in all college stats in Div 1A

How bad are they??........well ....not as bad as they are gonna be....if that is a positive statement you better freeze your HDDVR now cause ND is headed to a horrible season....its worst ever

Hooray for Weis....the offensive guru !!!!.....3 years and now his team's offensive plays are over 50% resulting in minus yards.

Get that Philbrain TV game host to suit up......Charlie put on a helmet and play in the O line....they need you

 

It was perfectly clear to me kp!

Hey from the look of the opening drive you may have your hands full with Georgia tonight.