"Nothing left in their heart" and that's what makes the SEC the top conference no f'n heart. But they never run out of excuses.
Didn't mean that to be lame Gipper but in all reality Utah was playing for respect and a possible slice of a title whereas Bama had already screwed the pooch.
Just to clarify. 1. This isn't about the Gators. 2. This isn't about Texas or Oklahoma 3. This really isn't about any team in the BCS. 4. This is about equal member schools that are clearly discriminated against by a system of backroom deals that uses coercion and peer pressure to whip the 'non-BCS' teams into line to accept their bread crumbs. The playoff needs to happen, anything short is just ice dancing.
Let me get something straight, are you just for some underdogs or all underdogs? Would you get lathered up if a Sun Belt Conference Team went undefeated and got left out of the BCS?
I'm for an end to this hypocrisy. Open the playoff system up! The 16 team playoff takes a month to do... 5 weeks if you toss in a 'bye week' for the title. 1st 2 rounds played on home fields with national semis and final games played at neutral sites. 11 conference champions, 5 at large teams. No more whining. No more excuses. I am for the destruction of the BCS outright. Members are members. Right now we have a 'green jacket society' operating withing the structure of the bowl subdivision and 90% of those wearing the jacket have never done a damned thing to prove their membership aside from historical conference affiliation.
How do you feel about the Sun Belt Conference getting a seat at the banquet? They play some good football.
11 Conference Champions? 1. Big East 2. Big 10 3. Big 12 4. SEC 5. ACC 6. CUSA 7. MAC 8. WAC 9. Mtn West 10. PAC10 11. Sun Belt Hmmm didn't think there were 11 Div 1 football Conferences.
btw-you could make it home field dates all the way thru the semi-finals too. That is something that I'd bet the larger conferences would like to have. Realistically, you know full damned well that the unbeaten Sun Belt conference champion isn't going to get a top 4 seed so they will most likely have to win out on the road and hope for an upset in the bracket across from them just to have a sniff of a prayer for a home game... but at least the game would be played. What I proposed is 100% feasible. It is also more 'fair' that the ******** 'pod' system used in the other playoff sports.
Hey I'm with you, I don't want a +1, or a 4 team playoff, or even an 8 team playoff. It's 16 teams or nuttin', because the rest don't solve anything.
I have no issue with a Division 1 bowl subdivision conference champion getting a ticket to the dance.
I knew you and I weren't far apart on this The 'timing and duration of schedule' issue to me just doesn't hold water. This dang schedule already runs from August into the 2nd week of January. This time table doesn't endanger a single traditional college football rivalry (unlike the formation of the super conference) You could still keep the 'bowls' for all non-playoff qualifiers. If you look at it historically, there isn't a single beef that could be made since the inception of the BCS that the 16 team playoff wouldn't best. The BCS likes to use as justification the 'talk' that is generated by debating 'who is #1' which I find to be ********. It discredits the game and shows the hypocrisy of it all. Imagine the 'talk' generated by Florida coming to THE Ohio State University in the 3rd week of December... or Notre Dame coming to Tuscaloosa.. USC vs Georgia.. Texas and USC in another epic clash.. And moreso, imagine the 'talk' generated by the unthinkable a Troy upset of a big dog on their home field.. Or all those teams who have been dodging Boise having to play on the blue turf in the snow... or Boise coming to them.. If people open their eyes to this, they'd see just how epic these battles would be.
Ok, you only see the teams that lobby for themselves in the game. Why would your backup choice be Alabama against Utah when Florida beat Alabama for the SEC Championship? Seems the Gators might be ahead of Bama?
Seems to me that since it was late in the season, on a neutral field and for the SEC Championship, the obvious answer would be team A, The Gators. But I am pretty clear why you don't agree. Ok, but don't I remember a couple of years ago when Boise State won their bowl game then we had quite a few people here who claimed they should be number 1? Of course it's easier to make these decisions after the fact. Terry So Fla. goes through a "weakened SEC schedule" actually loses a game, beats an overrated Ala. team and they deserved to play for the NC?[/quote]
Shy of a playoff..... The neat thing about waiting till all the games are played is that you can actually judge (or at least have a better idea) who is #1. The system we use now rushes to judge before all the facts are in...
"The neat thing about waiting till all the games are played is that you can actually judge (or at least have a better idea) who is #1." Yeah...ain't it great that the SEC has a Championship game played after the regular season to determine it's champion?
Not really. That is just the means they chose to select their champion. Others don't need that since they've added the extra conference game. Again, all of this is just gobbledigook if we have a playoff.
I will say one thing for you SEC guys. You crow and crow and crow about your conference championship game, but you've also been quite fortunate that you haven't had more seasons ruined by it. The Big12 has had 'title teams' tossed aside by the title game. Sooner or later a 4 loss team is going to dump your unbeaten golden boy... and you're not going to be happy.
MCG who is more of a true Conference Champion. Team A: Plays each member of it's conference and ends up with the best conference record. Team B: Plays some members of it's conference but not all and plays a 1 game playoff with another conference team, who may or may not be the 2nd best team in the conference?