The NC game is supposed to be between the best 2 teams in the country. Make a compelling argument that another team is better than Michigan. "They blew their chance" doesn't cut it.
OK TB. Let's look at your logic. All one-loss teams have failed, so only two undefeated teams should play for the NC. You are in favor of a matchup between Ohio State and Boise State? Neither have failed.
TB, One of the most memorable NCAA championship games ever involved Villanova beating Georgetown in basketball. Georgetown had already beaten V three times that year. Do you think the magnitude of that game was diminished because both were from the same conference?
You know after last year's debacle, I'm happy with the Rose Bowl. If Florida runs the table...I would rather see them go play the Bucks. If USC runs the table with them...well then I still like Florida, USC can join the Wolverines at the Rose Bowl. Still plenty of football to play out... Again congrats to the Buckeye fans...look out next year! (sounds like the cub fan I am as well)! Matt in INdy! At least i have my colts!
Damn, Matt, I don't know if we have sunk as low as the Cubbies but I agree with you that if USC or Fla runs the table, I have no problem with either of those teams getting smacked around by the Evil Empire. I plan on lighting candles in the hope that the Cleveland Browns offer the sweatervest a gazillion dollars to move to the NFL and quit tormenting us.
Guys, Here's what I know. Just yesterday I watched Michigan lose to Ohio State. So I know they can't beat them. What I don't know is If Ohio State can beat Florida, Texas, USC, ND or Arkansas? No need in Ohio State proving to me that they can beat Michigan, hell they did that yesterday. I believe. Michigan had their chance, they can't do it.
They say home field is worth at least 3 points. And you know Tailback that on a neutral field Mich. can't beat OSU?
So Ohio State has to beat Mich twice to prove they are better, while UM only has to beat them 1 time. Why did they even bother to play the game yesterday, or since I guess they had to, they should have just let the scrubs play to get some playing time.
Terry That's a valid argument (I've made it myself.) The problem is, if we're going to have a NC game and it's supposed to match the top 2 teams in the country, do we change the rules if it's a rematch and let a team that's lower than #2 play for the NC? There are no real good choices here.
It's not the first time that this has happened that the #2 in the match has been controversial due to late season loss, both Neb and OU lost late but because of the math they played any how. So it seems to me that it is not absolutely certain that UM is the 2nd best team in the country, and they just lost to #1. There is no rationale reason for a rematch. Let another 1 loss team have a shot at Ohio State. It is patently unfair that Ohio State must beat UM twice to get the championship. The Harris and Coaches polls voters have discretion. They should keep their options open and see how things finish up. USC if they win out would be the opponent for OSU, if not and UF wins out I'd be for them over UM. If it comes down to UM and ND, I think it's been a long time since Sept and we are a better team now, but I would understand the conundrum that the voters would face. If we'd played them really close and lost by a couple it might be different. If we'd averaged 50+ points a game after that, it would be different. I sort of agree with Urban Meyer, except the part about UF being more deserving than 1 loss USC.
Most NDers throw it out there that SC is still 36 points better than Arkansas who they played in early Sept. so I assume that those same NDers and you know who you are would feel that Michigan would still kick the snot out of ND if they played this week. With that in mind ND is effectively shut out of BCS title consideration. Welcome to New Orleans.
I think both Ark and ND have the same problem if they finish 11-1, both have really bad early season losses. USC, Mich and UF all have close losses on the road that could have been wins. That's why if those 3 teams win out they have the edge on ND. If Ark wins out, then the field is likely USC and Mich. If Ark and ND win out then I guess UM goes.
I think that I've written that we couldn't beat Mich or OSU this year. I'm not delusional. But then, my team never plays with "it's refs." It's almost always the other guys. To go 10-1 with the other guys refs should be worth something.
If SC wins out....it's close between SC and Mich. If SC loses and Florida somehow finds an offense that clicks the Gators could go. ND and Ark have no chance to go in my opinion because of those homefield beatdowns you mention. Michigan goes instead of either of those two.
:roll: I too believe that this is between Michigan and USC. Clearly, Michigan is the second best team and that's a hard argument to beat. The only other case that makes sense is the Trojans, if they run the table, by virtue of playing the hardest or second hardest schedule. Of course I'm hoping for a miracle vote for Notre Dame, but reality tells me that we had our chance against Michigan at home and didn't get the job done... As for this Sugar Bowl crap, it may happen, but don't hold your breath. If Ohio State plays USC, the Rose Bowl will have the first two choices and the rumor here is that they want a Notre Dame-Michigan rematch. I would love that! The Sugar Bowl against Florida or Arkansas would be a let down, but at least we would have a chance to bring one of them back to reality. I honestly feel that the Irish are better than either of them based on what I've seen... ...................JO'Co
And against whom have you seen such superior performance lately by the Irish that would instill such confidence in you Jo'Co? Stanford? Army? Surely not the near loss to UCLA?
It might be notweworthy to interject that , in the Sagarin ratings, the Irish schedule is ranked tougher than Florida's. You may be damned by your own words.