I'm saying middle class Americans are getting poorer by the day and they can hardly afford a new car now. Sheer numbers dictate that there is a potential for millions more Chevy owners out there than Porsche owners so who has the potential to foster more jobs as result of having the ability to buy a new car......the millionaire or the middle class American?
So what do you propose? Raise taxes, reduce consumption and national income, shrink the economy and lower the demand for labor......then what?
I agree this is what is going to be the sticking point going forward. Low demand for labor equals low wages. I just saw stats that said Florida has created 61,000 more jobs this year so far but the average wage is $21,000.00 vs. long lost construction jobs that paid an average of $39,000.00 per year.....enough to buy a new car once in awhile. The $21,000/year job is not going to do squat for consumption and will probably burden the healthcare system considerably. But.....Rick Scott is struttin around taking credit for these low paying jobs and even though I also was reading articles written....last November.....that said Florida would lead the nation this year in job creation. You go Ricky..... :roll: :roll:
Yep, it's clear that you'd surely be better off without those new jobs.... Just so I can keep this straight, the national economy is struggling to gain traction but it is the previous administrations fault, but the Florida economy is likewise struggling to gain traction but it is the current administrations fault.....does that cover it?
It would be much better if those jobs did not exist and the Florida taxpaper could continue paying unemployment forever. Why work when you can free-ride? Dave's buying!
Better off than none......but not better off if the nature of these jobs is considered stand pat success and certainly at not as much if any credit to Ricky because as I stated the predictions were there last November by economists for a 3% growth in Florida jobs this year. Again.....jobs counts should not just be a matter of numbers of jobs but quality of jobs also if there is to be any real impact on the economy. An example would be if the Tea Party could abolish the minimum wage then companies could slash in half the already weak hourly wages they are paying and when needed easily add more poverty level jobs......therefore making for a robust jobs growth by the numbers but leaving middle class American at poverty standards of living not seen since the Depression. But the Tea Party politicos could stand on the podium and boast how much they had accomplished for "jobs growth" and it would all be rubbish.
You are a master at speaking out of both sides of your mouth....shall I remind you about Obama's prediction for jobs and unemployment during his sales pitch for his massive pork spending project? You're defending Obama whilst simultaneously eviscerating Scott......always fascinating!
Anyone remember Obama blaming ATM's for eliminating jobs in the economy? Don't bank tellers fall into that $21,000 a year category?
BT you keep confusing me with an Obama supporter. I have repeatedly said I have not been a supporter of his and if there is a suitable......trustworthy.......alternative candidate with a viable plan I will not hesitate to vote against him in the next election. I am going to go with whomever seems to have the most legitimate interest in our country's well being and in the resurgence of our standing in the world's economies. Rhetorical attacks and party line ******** will go nowhere with me.....except if that's all we have to choose from then I will stay left of center because inherently I trust the Dems more than I do the GOP and I think the GOP is rife with a basic disregard for middle class Americans.
You're confused Dave. Why do you think FOX is #1 ? Because the uber rich watch it? Why do you think country and western entertainers almost exclusively support conservative candidates and causes while simultaneously caapturing the mainstream music scene? Because the overwhelming majority of people are conservative. Its not about party either. Its about values. The word republican meanw nothing to me nor to most folks. You've unwittingly aligned yourself with the elitist wealthy, the social re-engineers, the socialists. You've bought into the class warfare crap.
....and naive or sometimes self-aggrandizing. I grew up in NE Florida......I know what rural conservatism can be. Interesting map. You can just about pick out every major university community....the higher education centers are almost exclusively in blue.
....everybody is running for the exits on this guy :lol: You are an outspoken advocate of the same kind of socialist, big government entitlement, wealth redistribution policies in which this guy uses to pay off/buy the leftist political base..... Speaking of minimum wage, here's a solution right up your alley...... 1) Let's mandate triple the minimum wage giving all workers $21.75 thereby providing all workers an annual income of $45,000 - independent of skills, effort or education and lifting all workers well above the poverty line.... 2) Given the current rate of unemployment in the US is 9.1% we mandate all employers increase their work force by an additional 10% thereby eliminating unemployment.... In one fell swoop of the Presidents pen, we can eliminate poverty and unemployment simultaneously simply by legislating it....right? What don't we just do that???
George, The map is deceiving as it relates to population centers. Look at Indiana, a state whose area is almost completely red. However, because of their population densities, two urban centers, Indianapolis (tiny blue dot in the middle) and the Gary-Hammond area (blue counties beneath Lake Michigan) provided enough votes to enable Obama to carry the state. The overwhelming number of communities (towns, counties, rural areas, etc.) throughout the country are conservative, but the counter impact of the population density of the country's urban areas provides a nearly even split.
I come from a family of blue collar midwestern democrats. I'm the only one who votes conservative but in fact everyone in my family shares my views exactly. The thing is, the rest vote democrat because that was how they are raised. That's the only reason. I'm also the only one who moved away. Dave is looking for a villain; a handout, maybe some payback. He has created his personal targets and he won't rest until he gets square with these bad guys. That's all there is to him. And I'm really tired of this conversation.
********? I don't think so. Everyday you're on here whining. Let's target tax somebody that has more money than me. Business owners are greedy... let's get 'em. Why don't you stand on a corner with dark glasses, a red tip cane and hold out a tin cup? Or produce something to earn more money.
I have offered that as a better alternative for reducing the deficit than withholding hard earned benefits from the aging boomers in the middle class. Nobody wants to accept the "earned" part of the equation. If the Tea friggin Party wants to return.....not hand or give out......all of my hard effing earned contributions to Social Security and Medicare plus interest then I say have at it.......Ill be much better off than those programs could provide because I have heavily contributed over 35 years. What is so hard to understand about that?????
Conservatives and Republicans aren't the ones who gave the Social Security and Medicare money away. The Democrats put the SS money into the general revenue fund in 1968 and spent it all. They overpromised on Medicare to buy votes and there you have it: nothing. They took your money and spent it to buy votes and now it's gone. Your solution is to raise taxes to fund their new promises? Are you kidding?
The "friggin" Tea party didn't take your money Dave. Your government, mainly the democrats, did . This hatred of the Tea party intrigues me since it is comprised of people mainly like yourself; your age, background with many of the same issue you have. They are asking for adherence to the US constitutution only; for a government representative of the people and beholden to the people and not to its own agenda. They are NOT asking for handouts, special treatement or retribution.