Signing Day

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  1. Stu Ryckman

    Stu Ryckman Well-Known Member

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    Bill, I hope he isn't too high maintenance when he gets there. Bad start. :(
     
  2. Stu Ryckman

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  3. Stu Ryckman

    Stu Ryckman Well-Known Member

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    Huh.

    OSU Recruit Upset

    I don't think I blame him for being upset. Wonder if anyone at the school besides Drayton knew that he was looking around.
     
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    Stu, we are also losing someone to the NFL, in this case our new defensive line coach, and that would be CeCe's position coach.

    What is different here is that he knew that and was waiting to make sure. Apparently Terrell Williams, the coach we had just hired, discovered he didn't care much for recruiting and he is leaving to coach with the Miami Dolphins.

    It seems he didn't make a good impression on the recruiting front.

    Also the big holdup is CeCe's father who is refusing to sign the LOI. I think a new one has been faxed and his mother will sign.

    But you know what the sun will rise and set and the Gators will move on and I strongly believe we hired the right guy.

    The article about recruiting these you guys also has a lot of truth in it. I almost fell like he does, tell me when it's over.
     
  5. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    Re: Coaches leaving after NSD. It happens every year, and you know that everybody on the coaching staff knows about it and hides it. We lost one of our defensive coaches to Oklahoma, and it was clearly a done deal but ND tried to keep it quiet, but there was a DB who he was recruiting for ND that OU wanted so they leaked it and guess who that DB signed with on NSD? OU. I don't think he was going to sign with ND anyway because he was not cleared by our admissions.

    Also I seem to remember a QB who got out of his LOI when the coach left right after NSD. So if he really wanted to fight it, he might win.

    I'm in favor of an early signing period but I think that needs to be paired with a clause that says if there is a change at HC the kid gets to opt out and go someplace else if he wants.
     
  6. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    FWIW when I read about kids not being happy when their position coach who recruited them leaves or there is a HC change, it always brings up that conventional wisdom is that they should be committing to the school not to the coach. And there certainly are in every class a core of kids who just want to play at Ohio State or Texas or Notre Dame, etc and don't really care all that much who is the coach. But I don't blame kids who were recruited by a certain group of coaches, who run a specific system that they like and see themselves fitting into, not being excited that all that has changed and they can't do anything about it.
     
  7. Stu Ryckman

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    Then I suppose that there are those kids who become attached to certain coaches at camps, etc.
     
  8. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    I think that is one reason most schools have camps, not just to evaluate the kids potential, but also have a chance to get to know him and develope a relationship.

    I've read countless times where kids say the reason that they are going to School Z is that those coaches were in early with them and they have a great relationship, and School Y got in late and they don't know those coaches as well.
     
  9. Motorcity Gator

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    NFL money or the possibility of it is a huge motivator with the top H/S talent eyeballing college programs..... as well it should be.

    They have a chance to make more millions in the NFL than they might with a 4 year degree.... it's that simple.

    If my kid had chosen to play in a system that fit his talents... that had room on the starting roster for his talents and that promised a real opportunity for him to showcase his NFL caliber talents.... I would be more than agreeing with his change of heart should the coaches at that school undergo upheaval and change of leadership.

    Yes.... getting that degree at a good school is exceedingly important and even more so for moderately talented football players but the top talents are almost guaranteed NFL money if they work hard and keep their off field reputations intact with good behavior.
     
  10. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    This is actually kind of funny....a Stanford kid is graduating and wants to play somewhere else, ND was definitely interested. So Harbaugh hires his Mom as the director player development, I of course have no idea what her job will entail or what her qualifications are to do that job. Just by title alone you'd think it had something to do with football, but it could be academic or other area's that players need help with I guess.

    I'll be shocked if son doesn't follow mom to Ann Arbor!

    from today's FREEP.

    It appears that Stanford cornerback Wayne Lyons will play his fifth year for the Wolverines.

    Though he hasn't said anything publicly, his mother, Gwendolyn Bush, apparently is Michigan football's new director of player development.

    Her title is listed in the school directory, and she shared it on Twitter. A Michigan official declined to comment today.
     
  11. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    FREEP also has a big story on the Weber/Stan Drayton situation.

    http://www.freep.com/story/sports/high-school/2015/02/06/buckeyes-mike-weber-stan-drayton/22976915/
     
  12. Stu Ryckman

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    Drew Sharp's Take;

    http://www.freep.com/story/sports/2015/02/06/mike-weber-ohio-state-drew-sharp/22979959/
     
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    Always two sides to every story. :roll:
     
  14. Bobdawolverweasel

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    If you are looking for a second team to root for after another oily recruiting has passed, this story might help your search:

    http://oregon.247sports.com/Bolt/Idaho-Honors-cancer-commits-scholarship-35432550
     
  15. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    Meyer could reclaim the high ground by calling the kid and his parents and telling them he doesn't want anybody to feel like they have been lied to about this and if he wants his release he'll give it to him. Of course make the pitch that they really want him and see a great future for him at OSU and hopes he'll still come.
     
  16. George Krebs

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    If the defending national Champions with possibly the best coach in the game playing in a stadium that seats 110,000 is not enough for this kid then let him go.
     
  17. Stu Ryckman

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    Terry, Urban has talked to the kid as has Drayton after he left. I don't know what was said or offered and neither do you. If the kid comes out and says he wants out...then we should have this conversation about the high road. Until then I'll let them work it out between themselves.
     
  18. IrishCorey

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    t's a dick move and I don't care who does it... everyone does it btw.

    Still, I don't buy that 'the kid should commit to the school' **** anymore because 99.99% of these programs are selling everything but the school. These position coaches form 'bff' type relationships with these kids. They use password protected chat programs to harvest that insulated relationship. They sell that way more than they do school.. The program, the relationship, the girls etc. School usually falls way down the list no matter what anyone says.

    These kids want to play pro football and then become media personalities.. if that was the case, and they were being smart about it, they'd all go to Northwestern. If grades and the school was what mattered, Vandy would rule the SEC and Florida State would be the laughingstock of the ACC..

    But none of that is what's going on. That's not what sells, and that's why it's a dick move.

    The real funny thing is that the NCAA can't and won 't protect the kids because they are currently tied up in a court case (two actually) arguing that kids commit to the school, not the program. It sucks, but it is what it is. The media won't hold anyone accountable and the jock sniffing circle jerk will continue... how long till Spring?
     
  19. Bobdawolverweasel

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    The old rivalry is starting to rev up.

    http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2015/02/07/michigan-football-jim-harbaugh/23038347/
     
  20. Don Ballard

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    Bobda,

    Personally I am glad to see this new saga beginning. It will be good for both the Wolverines and Buckeyes! GO B1G TEN!