Good points Terry. Sid, I think I remember earlier in the season after a Notre Dame win on a Florida off week where Charlie did say somethink like he didn't understand how teams like the Gators who didn't play could move up more than Notre Dame. That didn't bother me and Meyer's comments don't bother me. In fact his comments about the Auburn game could have been more pointed considering the screw job we got from the refs where none of them could see our QB's arm going forward, the guy in the replay booth couldn't see it and the head of officials in the SEC couldn't see the arm moving forward. However the whole world that watched that game saw his arm moving forward. Excuse the vent, but again in answer to your question I much prefer a coach who tells it like it is rather than coach BS. I put Weiss, Spurrier and Meyer in that category so don't get bothered by whatever they may say. On a lighter note, if the Gators win the SEC it looks very likely that Notre Dame and Florida could meet in the Sugar Bowl. Stay tuned. Gator Bill
gipper, I know from personal experience that you are a great guy. Having said that, it really makes me wonder about your constant meaningless and even distorted one liners. Anyone with any common sense knows things were different in 96. One major difference was that if we had the BCS as it now exists we would not even have been able to play FSU, Arizona would have and the winner of that game would have won the NC. We were lucky and I've always known that, but the same holds true for many other years and who won the NC. But keep it up with the meaningless one liners, sometimes I need a good laugh. However should you ever decide to have a halfway intelligent converstation about this topic let me know and we will give it a shot, at least I would, I'm doubtful about you. Gator Bill
If I were a Gator fan I would be unsettled by Meyer's whining rant. What ever happened to taking the high road?
Bill, I see your and Terry's point about Charlie. I guess it depends on the color of glasses we wear. As you've said before, yours are orange and blue, and it's obvious that mine are blue and gold. 8) If I step back and look again, I wince at Charlie's candor. I also continue to wince at Meyer's comments. I defer to Terry's analysis comparing those two to the old school coaches, who held the line on their comments to the media and refused to be baited into the kind of candid comments we've heard lately from both coaches. In the end, you probably have the better approach. Let it go. It's no big deal.
Well George now that we know how you feel about Meyers comment, can I assume you are consistent and feel the same way about Charlie's comment a couple of weeks ago where he whined about the Gators, among a couple of others, rising in the poll even though they didn't play that week? If so you are consistent and I applaud you. I think I am consistent even if a bit different than you in saying neither of their comments bothered me. Gator Bill
Anybody hear from Stu or G-Man? They were going down to the game to tailgate, I don't think they had tickets. Hopefully they didn't get tossed in Jail for rioting in celebration of the victory!!
I didn't like Weis' comments because I don't think in my heart that the Irish are NC material and I don't think he does either hence his comments were unnecessary. Meyer's comments were much more of a protracted whine where he even brings officiating into it.
George, let's just leave it this way, I respect your opinion but will just have to respectively disagree. Let's hope we stay on track for a Gator - Irish Sugar Bowl. Gator Bill
George..one question...did you watch the Aub-Fla game? I heard a radio guy today in Detroit say something about Fla losing by double-digits to Auburn. Well...it was 18-17 before the "fumble" call with 3 minutes left and then it was 21-17 until the last play of the game which was one of those sloppy desperation lateral deals where Aub picked it up and made the final score 27-17. Somehow I knew that would be a pseudo big deal to some jerk who didn't watch the game. (not you George...the Detroit radio jockey)
Bill I pointed out that just as it's unfair in some regards for OSU to have to beat Mich. twice, the same situation was faced by FSU in '96. That's a fact. It's not meaningless, it shows how unfair a rematch can be. If you don't like the analogy tough. IF it's meaningless to you I couldn't give a crap.
Florida was the most dominant team in college football in 1996 bar none. UF outscored their opposition that year by an average score of 48-17. In the game at Tally UF took the lead late only to have a "holding" call nullify the go ahead TD. The hold was B/S and UF lost 24-21. With a Big 12 ref crew calling the late hit before "the echo of the whistle" on FSU and otherwise with Fla exerting their dominance the Gators smashed FSU 52-20 and therefore erased any doubt who was the better team on a neutral field with competent refs. In the case of UM-OSU actually OSU appeared to be the better team so I don't think UM could possibly dominate the Bucs. With decent tackling however I could see UM winning a close one and that would not solve anything in the long run with regard to who was the more deserving NC unlike the Fla-FSU scenario in 1996. I have a sneaking suspicion that this is what will happen...UM by 3 in Az. and then what?
The thing is that another 3 point win by OSU would be validation but a 3 point win by UM would just be consternation and confusion.
Beg all you want but OSU's stats and SOS were both behind UF that year and the Bucs lost at home to Michigan. UF lost on the road to undefeated FSU. OSU barely by the skinniest of margins pulled one out over AzSt while UF completely overwhelmed FSU. Not even close BT.
Nonsense.....so you were 1-1 with FSU. Stats? BFD! We were 1-0 against an otherwise undefeated ASU team played on a neutral field 3000 miles and 3 time zones from home. There's a new concept for ya - give that one a go sometime!
Oh really gipper???? Well below is every quote, in order, that you made in this topic. If the point you were trying to make was how hard it is to win a rematch you have a strange way of starting off. Let's look at them one at a time. Let me see, I can certainly see how you start off with how hard it is to win a rematch by making a typical gipper one line insult of Florida. Yep it's sure clear here. Must be clear here also. So far it seems to me you are trying to make a case for the rematch. Ok, this sure sounds like you are talking about how hard to win a rematch!! More of the same. Still sounds to me you are making a case for the rematch?? Oh no, wait it's just another chance for a gipper one line cheap shot at Florida. Now gipper if you had truly tried to make the point of how hard it is to win a rematch we would probably agree. However your obvious real agenda was to take more than one cheap shot at the Gators. I'm glad you don't give a crap what I think, because I can now tell you that in a topic filled with people having some meaningful dialogue what you presented was crap, and the last self serving statement that you were just trying to make a point as to how hard it is to win a rematch might have been better made by saying just that instead of the crap you put forth. You are better than that and way to often just can't restrain yourself can you? But thanks for finally making a reasonable, rational point. See what can happen when you do more than just one line zinggers? And we can even agree on that one point. Gator Bill
gipper, please excuse my last post where I said I had put all your comments. I forgot this truly meaningful one. Let's see if we can find some common ground. I don't want to see a rematch, how do you feel? Gator Bill