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  1. BuckeyeT

    BuckeyeT Well-Known Member

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    Ringer is a great back and our weak point defensively is in the interior -we are vulnerable to the power game. If we can make them one-dimensional, which is uncertain at this point - and make Hoyer(?) throw to beat us, Sparty is in a world of hurt. However, if we can't control Ringer, game over.

    I think I see we're favored by 3.....although given our offensive output of late, perhaps that is the over/under?! :shock:

    One of these days, it will all start to click for young Pryour and when it does, look out. However, until then, thank God for the defense.
     
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    No dog in this fight, but I'm betting MSU wins this one. Just a hunch.
     
  3. BuckeyeT

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    They very well might. They are certainly capable and - at present - are playing better football than we are. Our kids are going to have to step up and play the kind of football we know they can play and the youngster is going to have to grow up in a hurry and just let his athletic ability come through.

    Should be a good smash mough Big 10 football game....everybody's gonna have to bring their big boy pads and strap on their hats tight.
     
  4. Motorcity Gator

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    Penn St's schedule:

    Coast. Carolina W 66-10
    Sept. 6 Oregon State W 45-14
    Sept. 13 at Syracuse W 55-13
    Sept. 20 Temple W 45-3
    Sept. 27 Illinois W 38-24
    Oct. 4 at Purdue W 20-6
    Oct. 11 at Wisconsin W 48-7

    Opponents record with Coastal Carolina: 17-27 without 14-23

    Not much else needs to be said about PSU until they play OSU and MSU
     
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    Ah...but the beauty of the SEC Championship game is that Florida would get it's own chance vs. Bama..... 8)
     
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    Assuming the Commodores or Bulldogs aren't playing in the game...
     
  7. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    That is the beauty of the Conf Championship game and it's the curse in the same way. The Gators I saw Sat night were an awesome football team and if they win out and beat an undefeated Alabama (assuming they remain so) would certainly make them a candidate for the NC game.

    But as Dr. Tom Osborne also noted that can work against the team who finishes the regular season undefeated, they have to play 1 more game against at the very least a good team. And if the chips have fallen very fortuneately and you have 2 undefeated conference teams at the end of the regular season. Something that can happen in every conference except the PAC10 which plays a true round robin schedule, you knock out 1 team for consideration of the NC.

    I wish the B12 would drop the championship game myself. Other than making money and exposing teams to a debilitating loss and maybe even injuries that would affect their abilty to win their bowl game, I don't see anything good in it. The Big10 fans enjoy football as much as anybody and don't have that game. I'm happy the Irish don't have that game.

    To Hell with Conference Championship Games!!

    Terry
     
  8. Motorcity Gator

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    Now that Florida has one loss the SEC title game is a must add to the BCS title game resume.

    Playing and beating an unbeaten Alabama would seal the deal.

    That said....the Gator team I saw in person on Sat. night looked capable of doing all of those things but getting that production on a weekly basis is quite a challenge and probably unlikely.

    A little good fortune might still be needed somewhere down the pike as well.
     
  9. IrishCorey

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    what if

    <t>Alabama gets there with 1 loss?<br/>
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    2 losses?<br/>
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    Both are certainly possible</t>
     
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    Certainly possible for any one loss or even two loss SEC West team to be in the SEC CG.

    In most scenarios a one loss SEC champion coming out of Atlanta will have a great shot at the BCS title game provided a champion from the Big 12 and Penn St both are not undefeated.

    The SEC has sent the past two champions to that game and performed very well so the SEC will be hard to deny in the minds of the voters....even over a one loss OU or USC.
     
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    Surely pales in comparison to the list of juggernauts faced by your Gators.... you've played one team with a winning record. Gimme a break.... :roll:

    Let's not forget, importantly, PSU didn't lose to any of their cupcakes......
     
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    Aug. 30 Hawaii W 56-10
    Sept. 6 Miami W 26-3
    Sept. 13 OPEN DATE
    Sept. 20 at Tennessee W 30-6
    Sept. 27 Ole Miss L 31-30
    Oct. 4 at Arkansas W 38-7
    Oct. 11 LSU W 51-21

    Hmmmm...I'm trying to figure out who compares to Coastal Carolina, Temple and Syracuse.....hmmmm.....can't do it.


    What's next? You're going to tell me ( again ) how Ohio State will pummel the team that beat Florida in a bowl game last year? :lol: :lol:
     
  13. BuckeyeT

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    ....well, that's part of their schedule. That said, I would bet that if you looked closely enough, you could find a team or two that might be the equal of Ole Miss.....and last time I checked, you have to count all the games not just the games that you win and let's not forget, beating all the cupcakes on your schedule will always be superior to those that did NOT beat all their cupcakes....always.
     
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    TOK,

    I'm a fan of the champ games as long as the conference involved doesn't play a round robin sched.

    Tie breakers should NEVER decide a champion between teams with the same record if it can be avoided.
     
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    No you won't. There aren't any equals to the mighty SEC. They of 4 pre-season national title contenders. They are so awesome, that right now their best team wasn't even one of their four pre-season NC contenders. That's how they roll... and they are unchecked. Don't you dare speak up, out or against the SEC because that will just show how little you know about college football.

    If the AFC East would just sack up and admit Florida and Georgia, then we MIGHT finally be able to talk about how 'weak' their schedule is...but not as long as they are members of the SEC East...no way.
     
  16. Motorcity Gator

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    That's right so LSU counts for Florida as does Illinois for PSU but who would be favored by 20 points in that one?

    For that matter.....all "cupcakes" are not created equal so how about this for a line-up of the money line....which is always the real deal and not someone's idyllic wishes:

    Hawaii over Coastal Car by 31
    Arkansas over Temple by 24
    Ole Miss over Syracuse by 27
    Tenn over Oregon St by 4
    Illinois over Miami by 3
    LSU over Wisconsin by 17

    If you have a way to turn this around dramatically to favor PSU's schedule have at it.....
     
  17. IrishCorey

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    hahahahahaha

    you're a ***deleted****. That is all I have to say about that...but I will still give it a spin.

    LSU beat a god awful Auburn team by 5 points...and an even worse Miss State team by 10 at home. You've got them dropping Wiscy by 17. Illinois and Miami?!? I have no idea who would win and neither do you. UT over Oregon State?!? Really now... and how do you figure that, SEC dominance over the Pac10? LOL

    Ole Miss over Syracuse..possible...likely given that the Cuse is not good at all. Still, Ole Miss has only beaten Memphis, Samford and the Florida Gators... They've been beaten by Wake, Vandy and SCAR.

    Arkansas struggled to beat Western Illinois and La Monroe. In fact, they needed miracles. The fact they beat Auburn doesn't make them good, it proves that they're sh*tty.

    But leave it to you to put up something with little to no substance and use it as the weight of your argument to dismiss the relevance of someone else while devaluing their entire conference.

    Why bother with onfield results?
     
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    Nobody said that their schedule was superior - you were criticizing PSU's opponents and I simply pointed out that you've played one team with a winning record - not a long list of juggernauts. Spin it any way that you like....

    In any event, that is not the relevant point....so there is no need. PSU has played several football teams capable of beating them and yet they have prevailed in all their games. Your Gators have played several football teams capable of beating you and you have not prevailed.

    You suggest that PSU is unproven and thus far, it would seem to me and I would suggest most rational and objective observers, they have proven more than your Gators...
     
  19. Motorcity Gator

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    And likewise you my friend....

    Ole Miss gave a good Wake Forest all they could handle at Wake.

    Lost on the last play to a good Vandy team and played well vs. Scar.

    You think Syracuse could hang with them? Look at the on field results and explain that one genius.

    Temple has done what to make you think Arkansas wouldn't lay waste to them.

    Up in the air on Tenn vs. Oregon St but I think the Vols would be favored.

    I do think as I stated that Ill would be favored over Miami but by the slimmest of margins and the way Wisconsin has been laying down you have to be kidding me that LSU wouldn't be more than a two TD favorite.

    Get real....

    Oh...and on field results are that UF's opponents are 18-17 while PSU's opponents are 17-27.

    Can't see how that adds up in Penn State's favor but I am sure that with your funny math you will find a way. :wink:
     
  20. Tennessee Tom

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    With our ineffective offense we would not be favored against Holy Sisters of the Blind.