I thought it was a TD until I saw the reply that Gip is referring to. The elbow was down and the announcers were totally missing that fact in their commentary.
Agreed, Tom and Gip. I thought the whistle had blown when the refs decided his forward progress had been stopped, which was well before he made his final lunge. Either way, I don't see it as controversial, unlike some west coast tree huggers and one midwest husker. :lol: I guess we won't hear the full explanation until sometime tomorrow......or not.
1. The play was over. You know that from the line judge running forward with his hand in the air and the spot he was running to was two feet short of the goal line. 2. The runner's left elbow was on the ground as he extended the ball. 3. As the ball nears the goal line, it's coming out of his hand anyway. He does not have possession of it. 4. As Gipp pointed out, the refs were an all-12Pac crew with a Big Least replay official in the booth. 5. Plays don't go on forever and the runner doesn't have to "go down." Offensive plays are over when forward progress is stopped and that runner was still several feet short of the goal, in a pile of tacklers, with his left elbow on the ground 5-6 seconds after the pile formed. 6. I hope this happens to USC too. Stanford just went home without whining. If it happens to the Troy Boys, they'll be writing books about how they were cheated 50 years from now...
ND <t>JO'CO is right. The play was called dead before he reaches the ball over the goal line and even if it wasn't dead, his elbow touched the ground prior. Stanford can cry all they want. They ran into one of the best defenses in college football this season and couldn't get the ball in from the 1 yard line with 1st and goal.</t>
I was impressed with Shaw at the end. He simply took off his head phones and stoically walked across the field to shake hands with Kelly. On TV, I did not detect any complaining by the Stanford players. I neither like nor dislike Stanford since Harbaugh is gone. In this case, I will say that they showed class at the end of the game.
The side judge was running in toward the pile before the RB reached out with the ball. I think the whistle had already sounded. In any case the elbow was clearly down. How ironic that the two bad boys, Tommy and Carlo, figured heavily in the outcome? ON BGI they were trying to run both of them out of the program just a few weeks ago.
1. Rees is terrible. 2. This is an instance in which I believe replay hurts the game because it's removed the testicles from the officials. The official word is that the whistle didn't blow. Ask yourself, why not? The RBs, 1st, 2nd and 3rd surge were all stopped. I think it's safe to say that if our safety came up and took his head off, it would have been a justifiable penalty for late hit... If that's the case, where the F is the whistle? The official ran up with his hand in the air.... but now they are saying he didn't blow the whistle.. So, what the F was he doing running in on the play waving it down with his hand in the air?
ND <t>Let me see now....according to many pre-season predictors, including some of our own fans, ND would only have 6 wins this year. I'm really not good at math but I'm just sayin.............................<br/> <br/> I think we may exceed that total.</t>
I can tell you boys, that I was one wet, tired, weary, cold fan when they pulled off that goal line stand. I was also hoarse. It was so impressive the atmosphere, the stadium was loud and rocking the whole game inspite of the weather. The place was, full, the tailgates were full, we were wet, we were cold, we were winners!! I will also say that you have to have some calls go your way, whether or not he was in or not we win and we deserved the win. But again you have to have some good things happen, last year we were totally snake bitten, everything that could go wrong went wrong, Gray fumbles and the USF LB takes it to the house, usually they just fall on it. Robinson fumbles on the goal line but it pops right back into his hands and he scores, he throws a bunch of balls up for grabs and they get them all, stuff like that happened all year. This year we've made the plays, picked off those passes. Texas scored the winning TD vs OSU when the guy fumbes the ball and it never gets across the goal line. But since the offical called it a TD that was all the replay ref could look at, and he couldn't see what happened to the ball after the back fumbled it so he had to let it stand as a TD. Was the Stanford backs elbow down, did he lose control of the ball, was his forward progress stopped. Doesn't matter, it's a W for us.
Two Jersey boys were in the thick of that play That's Bennett Jackson #2 who trailed down the line from the weakside to take his legs. And Carlo is helmet to helmet and about to stand him up.
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Carlo and Fox are both having solid years. What that new DB coach, Bobby Elliot, has really done a great job coaching up Mathias Farley and improving the play of Zeke Motta. Kerry Cooks the CB coach also doing a great job. Elliot has a lot of experience and has been a DCoord and was Diaco's coach at Iowa. He was an excellent pickup for the Irish. I haven't watched that hour long film on ND that NFL Films produced but most of those who have said they came away very impressed with the team and Brian Kelly. Starting be some guys who hated Kelly and thought he was a horrible hire jumping on the Kelly bandwagon. Also a footnote on the Kelly/Dayne Crist deal. A lot of people were extremely critical of Kelly for pulling Crist for Rees, saying he screwed over Dayne and stuff like that. Well Charlie after luring Crist to Kansas for the reunion...benched Dayne and his replacement looked better in his first game. Maybe Kelly knew something after all.
I cut this out of the NDFanCam 360 image that is available online, they took this during the 1st Qtr. From left to right...TOK in Yellow Poncho, Doug O'Keefe, with the grayish hoodie, and Brian O'Keefe with the el cheapo Walmart Pancho bought 3 years ago for USC game.
It wasn't Baylor, I didn't go to that game. I can't even remember what year it was, I know we had a Skybox tailgate because I remember Corey and JO'Co were there along with Mike. Mike had the preferred spot I believe, might have been a MSU game...just not sure.
Looks like you had those low seats just above the field Ah, maybe not. Is that the wall behind you? You must have been in the clouds at some point.