Notre Dame Spring/Summer

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  1. Sid

    Sid Well-Known Member

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    Reposting from another topic:

    Tim wondered how JO'Co would feel about the news. Here's Corey's reaction on Facebook::
    "I can't believe this is true. I'm so mad."
     
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  2. Sid

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    I don't foresee any changes in ND's position or conference affiliation. I've been wrong before.
     
  3. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    During the Covid year of 2020 Kevin Warren was roundly criticized from all sides, now with this move he's looking pretty good isn't he?
     
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    Sid, if FSU and/or Clemson leave the ACC do you think Notre Dame would stay? Would they go back to independent? I think ND may have to join one of the mega conferences in the fairly near future.
     
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    I've read "some teams" in the ACC have been looking for a legal loophole out... and so far nada.
    I think if that happens, and the ACC is cracked then ND will probably make a move. Not sure where they will go, but if this leads to a new org outside the NCAA, then ND could be given the brush if they don't come to the table somewhere so it might look more attractive.
     
  6. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    The first thing any ACC team, including part timer Notre Dame have to overcome is media rights that do not expire for another 10 years.

    If that is solved and ND joins a conference then they will join the BIG 10. Right now the Big 10 and the SEC are at 16. If Clemson, FSU and Miami bolt from the ACC to the SEC, who will be the 4th. UNC?

    If The Big 10 adds Stanford, Washington and Oregon, it would make Sense for ND to be the 4th over CAL.

    Could ND survive as an independent? Don't know. One critical factor would be access to the what ever playoff formula emerges. We could have good schedule with the B12 schools and the remaining PAC and ACC schools as long as we can continue with USC and a rotation of top programs like we have now. Ohio State, A&M, Alabama are on future schedules. If not then Independence would likely put us on the outside looking in like a Group of 5 school.

    Top recruits already prefer SEC, and with the schools that the B1G 10 are adding it will strengthen their attractiveness for top recruits. Irish not being a part of the Power 2 will suffer.
     
  7. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    Sources: Oregon and Washington have been told by @bigten that it is standing pat for now. Waiting on a decision by Notre Dame.

    — Dennis Dodd (@dennisdoddcbs) July 1, 2022
     
  8. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    From Football Scoop article below:

    The Irish would have to pay an exit fee in the ballpark of $140 million to leave the ACC at this point, but they'd almost immediately make that up with the revenue that the Big Ten brings to the table, and that's about to get a whole lot better with the Los Angeles market now in Big Ten domain.
     
  9. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    This just me, but I am shocked by the supposed exit fee. I would believe 50 million or so, but 140, that I don't believe.
     
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    So if Clemson and FSU bolt to the SEC is the exit fee still in force for ND? Just wondering.
     
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    I hate to say this, but ND seems to be in a very precarious spot at this point. 140 million does seem to be a ridiculous amount of money. I do not see how the ACC can survive in the future? Problems galore and challenges down the road for many teams.o_O
     
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    For now, I'll stand by my original comment, recognizing that I don't know any more than everyone here. I just don't think the ACC is as vulnerable as it's being made out to be. We'll see.
     
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    I hope that proves to be true Sid!:)
     
  14. Terry O'Keefe

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    They aren't getting out of the ACC without a stiff exit fee, of that I am sure. What that fee is I don't know. TEXAS and OU are staying in the B12 because they don't want to pay the exit and are waiting for the media rights to expire in 2025. ACC teams will have to wait another 10 years
     
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    Everything is negotiable, but with that being the probable death knell for the ACC I could see them trying to hold firm to a big number. I don't think it's imminent, but certainly a possibility.
     
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    One from Houston, Texas! Notre Dame landed a big-time prospect on Friday. Houston (Texas) Kinkaid School four-star cornerback Micah Bell committed to Notre Dame.

    The 5-11, 170-pounder is listed as 247Sports’ No. 55 overall player in the country, No. 8 cornerback nationally and No. 12 recruit in the state of Texas. The class of 2023 standout chose the Fighting Irish over scholarship offers from Texas, Tennessee, Arkansas, Duke, Florida, LSU, Michigan, Oregon, Stanford and many others.
     
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  17. Terry O'Keefe

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    I don't live that far from Kincaid. It's a pricey high academic private school, that in years past never produced athletes that were recruited. But that has all changed in the last 10 years.
     
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    The handwriting is on the wall. If the Big Ten will take us this is the time to join a conference. The ACC will likely lose its best teams to the SEC. The Big Ten is now a national coast to coast conference.
     
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    George, Terry has always favored being independent, but I agree now may be the time to join a conference. I know there have been issues for a number of years between the BigTen and Notre Dame. I would love to see the Irish join our conference.:)
     
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    All the scenarios being tossed around. My head's spinning. Does anyone recall that the last time ND and the Big 10 danced around, the deal breaker was that the B10 declined to consider ND as independent in football? For ND to consider full membership in a conference under any circumstances, it would be a complete 180. I believe that ND will honor its commitment to the ACC and that the ACC will withstand this latest round of conference realignments and remain strong, despite possible scenarios to the contrary. As always, we'll see.
     
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