Notre Dame Football 2023

Discussion in 'Sports Board' started by Terry O'Keefe, Jul 26, 2023.

  1. BuckeyeT

    BuckeyeT Well-Known Member

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    Yes, he was at or near the top, that was one of my observations as well but on further thought I realized many of those guys did the same. Devaney made Nebraska into a power before Osborne, same with Bama with Bear and Saban, OSU with Woody, Tressel and Urban, Switzer with Wilkinson, Leahy with Rockne, Paterno with Rip Engle. I think we confuse the point if we focus on that too much tho. The larger point to me is that this is a list of the greatest and most successful coaches that the game has ever known. That he is still a very young coach and his results to date land him square in their midst is my takeaway and speaks for itself....and P.S. I love Lou Holtz. I've been a fan of Lou's since he was on Woody's staff for the 68 NC team and have been an avid follower and supporter ever since. Imho, he crossed the line when he personalized it and called Day out by name. I do wish Day hadn't responded in the manner that he did but he did....and his players loved it for having their backs. Also, Lou can take shots at Day and his team all he wants, but let the record show, I don't see Lou's name on that list.
     
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    The table that was put up was very informative. It can be argued that the first 5 years may not be the true measure. He may be winning with someone else's recruits, but it is apples to apples in this case. The question "who are you going to get that's as good or better?" is the real crux of the matter. Day is one of the top 3 or 4 coaches in college football today and it would be stupid to fire him if he loses 1 or 2 games a year, although I do understand the frustration of losing repeatedly to your biggest rival.
     
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  3. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    No good news..Jordan Greathouse who has been terrific this year as a true freshman is out, and Jayden Thomas is questionable, game time decision. Very thin at WR.
     
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    Jayden Greathouse. Jordan is his injury prone alter ego. :D
     
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  5. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    Irish pull off the fake punt and Estime scores the TD. Nice opening drive!
     
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  6. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    A defensive struggle has broken out. 3 missed FG's, 2 by Duke and 1 by the Irish. Sam Hartman looks pretty average, just a little over 50% passing, Estime being bottled up by the Duke defense.
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    10-0 at half, we should be up by more but the offense has just bogged down. Maybe it's missing those 2 WR's. Mitchell Evans continues his great play at TE.
     
  7. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    uh oh....massive shift in momentum. Not looking good for the Irish.
     
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    How's your kicker?
     
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    Irish fellas breath a sigh of relief.
    Gotta respect the job Elko has done... I sure miss that guy on our defensive staff.
     
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    A win is a Win.!
     
  11. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    I feel bad for Riley Leonard, kid played his heart out and it looks like on that last play he broke his ankle.

    What a battle though, 2 weeks in a row. This week we come out on top.

    Whew....
     
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  12. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    So what do you guys think about the ref calling the punt out at the 1, and it not being a reviewable play yet they go ahead and review it and over turn the on the field ruling?

    It probably was a touchback, but still it wasn't reviewable.
     
  13. Bobdawolverweasel

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    Hope the SB Irish have a cardiologist on speed dial. Hartman’s scrambling for a first down on 4th and 16 stopped the Grim Reaper from ending ND’s playoff hopes. Gutty win when it seemed all was lost.
     
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  14. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    Hard not to notice that last week on a 4th down run Hartman stepped out rather and lowering his shoulder and at least attempting to run over the Buckeye DB, twice tonight when he was running for a 1st down on 4th down, he did just that lower his shoulder and dove for the first down.

    I get it that he's not a physically imposing QB like that Duke QB, so I do understand the whole self preservation thing.
     
  15. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    What about that Targeting call on the Irish? It was the crown of the helmet to the hip of the Duke player, which I have never seen called. I didn't even know that technically that was the rule. Offensive player is protected from head to toe according the ABC Ref expert. I just can't ever remember seeing that called, and it that is the rule then there should be a lot more targeting calls?
     
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    Terry, I think that part harkens back to spearing.
    Launching to hit with the crown of helmet is a no no regardless of where he hits . I didn't see the call in question, just giving my take on the rule.
     
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  17. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    On the play where Sam spiked the ball, to stop the clock and save a timeout. I noticed that he kept gesturing to the sideline for a play then lined up and ran the play that Estime scored the winning TD.

    I don't listen to the ND broadcast on XM radio, but those who do said that Ryan Harris claimed that they never got a play into Sam and he called the play himself rather than waste the last TO. If true then another end game failure by the Staff.
     
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    The whole “Targeting” rule is crazy
     
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    I've never seen or heard about targeting called on anything but helmet to helmet until last night.
     
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    Last week ND won most of the statistical categories and lost the game. Last night they lost most of the same categories and won the game. It's a funny game.