As far as replacing Floyd, that's impossible. But we do have some good young talent in John Goodman, Shaq Evans, and Dieon Walker along with Jr's Robbie Parrish and Duval Kamarra. These guys just need to step up and Weis and Clausen need to distribute the ball to more recievers. Weis sort of likes to ride Tate/Floyd with some Rudolph. I don't think many passes have gone to our slot recievers, or backs I was thinking about that while watching the Texas Tech recieving corps, they had 5 or 6 no name recievers who ran good routes who all seemed to have good hands and made some difficult catches. None of these guys would likely have even been considered by Weis or other big time programs, but yet there they are making plays for a prolific offense, that doesn't really even have a running game. No reason our guys can't make plays either. None of them are as good as Floyd but collectively they can do the job.
One thing that Dantonio said yesterday was that the blocked extra point was the play of the game. If not for that he'd have kicked the FG for the win late in the game.
Agreed, Tim. At one point my son texted me, saying, "Get Jonas Gray out of there!" No, Terry. The other ND guys here know that I am not a complainer when it comes to the referees. For example, I don't believe that the Clausen hit should have been called. Having said that, it's clear to me that Big 10 referees in general are horrible and far from unbiased. Early in the game they called a hit out of bounds on our guy when it was clear the contact was made well in bounds and that the momentum carried the tackler OB. Not long after, there was an exact replica of that play in reverse, in the same place on the field - if anything, more obviously an OB hit - and the same referee did not call it on MSU. That's what I'm talking about. Lousy and inconsistent officiating. Conspiracy? No, not at all. Inconsistency and cases of individual bias? Absolutely. Who gives them their reviews? The conference teams, not the opponents. I'm a Big 10 fan, but that kind of crap cannot be defended by a conference homer, so don't even try.
...not trying to defend anything Sid....nothing to defend. Everybody thinks some officials suck - see some of our friends from the SEC.....the Big 10 is just your most recent opponent. No surprises there....
<pre><u>Category Rank Avg. Nat'l Leader Avg. Ind. Leader Avg. </u> Rushing Offense 58 155.00 Air Force 344.33 Army 257.67 Passing Offense 10 324.00 Texas Tech 444.33 Notre Dame 324.00 Total Offense 14 479.00 Texas A&M 589.50 Notre Dame 479.00 Scoring Offense 33 34.00 Houston 50.00 Notre Dame 34.00 Rushing Defense 74 149.33 Oklahoma 40.67 Army 77.00 Pass Eff Def 80 130.03 Arizona St. 64.46 Army 115.68 Total Defense 96 398.67 Arizona St. 149.50 Army 278.00 Scoring Defense 63 22.67 Oklahoma 4.67 Army 22.00 Net Punting 32 38.60 Georgia 47.36 Notre Dame 38.60 Punt Returns 48 10.00 Louisiana Tech 45.50 Notre Dame 10.00 Kickoff Returns 18 27.56 Arizona St. 50.75 Notre Dame 27.56 Turnover Margin 12 1.33 Arizona St. 4.00 Notre Dame 1.33 Pass Defense 91 249.33 Eastern Mich. 78.00 Army 201.00 Passing Eff 1 186.14 Notre Dame 186.14 Notre Dame 186.14 Sacks 76 1.33 TCU 5.50 Army 3.00 Tackles/Loss 51 6.00 Oklahoma 11.33 Army 6.67 Sacks Allowed 11 .67 La.-Lafayette .00 Notre Dame .67</pre>
There's a simpler solution. In non conference games, officials should be from a non involved conference, always.
Good news and bad news Gip..... The good news is that there is an nationwide effort underway to enhance the quality of officiating - CFO - College Football Officiating LLC - across all conferences...... The bad news is the Dave Parry - head of Big 10 officials was selected to lead the organization....... :lol: :lol:
T, Ha! Funny... but it does need to be changed. You guys know I follow the P10 as well and I'd be the first to tell you that playing a Pac10 with pac10 officials is NOT an easy task....especially in higher profile games. I'd like to see NCAA refs. I'd also like to see stuff in which you dont have (for example) officials from the state of Michigan calling games involving Michigan or Michigan State (as we've had the last 2 weeks). Not saying there is anything to that, but at least this way you remove that sense of nefarious intention.
You know, I wouldn't mind dropping the Big Ten from our schedule. Other than tradition and expense considerations, there's no reason to continue with it. I'd like to see us play another home and home with Neb., Tex., and FSU. These games could be our Sept. high quality opponents. I'd also like to see us playing BYU more regularly and renew our series with the Air Force. I think it would be a blast to play out on the blue carpet. I'd like to play Texas A&M again and I think that we've got Oklahoma on the menue in upcoming years. NC and Vir. are also good replacement teams. I'll leave the Big Ten to Central Mich., N. Ill. Toledo, and Temple when Appy St. isn't available.
I can understand completely why you wouldn't want several of those teams on your schedule......if I were in your position, neither would I.
I can see why your teams need to schedule those teams. Apparently they've been bringing their refs and pissing in your punch bowl however.
They have pissed in alot punch bowls and the refs have nothing to do with it..... .....as for my team, we're going to be just fine thank you very much.
I guess it's a difference in philosophy. Some schedule teams that they'd be embarassed to lose to. Others don't schedule teams that they'd been embarassed to beat. Thank you.
TOK, Very interesting.....and telling.....statistics. I was beside myself with our defensive impotence and our lack of discipline as evidenced in the # of penalties. I was on the very edge of coming over to the "dark" side (the "Fire Charlie" movement), but McCarthy's INT held me back......for now.
Gip, I don't know how you do it, but you always manage to find a way to throw in a gratuitous shot at Florida's non-conference schedule.....you're welcome. :wink:
Jesus, BT, I hope you are not billed for each reply to your postings. If you need a loan to pay his fee, your Big 10 comrade and fellow co conspirator will gladly assist. Re App State, I paste this memorable post from a fan of a CCHA comrade school and Kansas City dinner companion: Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 4:44 pm Post subject: So what's worse, losing to App. St. or losing to a team that lost to App. St.?
No thanks my friend, I've got it covered....mercifully, the hourly rate for his comedy routines is not inconsistent with its quality.....! :wink: That said, he has yet to opine on the monitor matter.....I shouldn't be so hasty in declining your generous offer....
I just want to know if this is true. There is 1 team on our schedule who will not play under officials from another conference... that team is Michigan. Is this true? If so, it needs to be a deal breaker. I remember when the B10 officials were canned by ND after the 20something to 4 holding disparity in Charlie's 1st year... could be 2nd year, but I am fairly sure it was the 1st. I think the idea of 3rd party officials (not affiliated) with the game aren't a bad idea, but then someone could always say they are trying to help their conference get a higher bowl slot... Independent NCAA refs are the way to go