I'm suggesting that Finebaum let it be known he was going to write a major column about something that was going to happen at Florida and that it was going to be about Urban. What he is now saying about Gator fans is at least an honest opinion with some info to even back it up. You could also say the same about a lot of major college football fans, especially in the SEC. However his pronouncements about Meyer are not backed up in any way and that's what the column was supposed to, and was, about and he fell very short and was insulting to boot. I still say he's backtracking because it became so obvious his column was just vindictive and no facts to back it up. He can say anything he wants now and you are free to believe or not believe him. Obviously I don't! Hey, I got my new HD TV hooked up to dish today and am really loving it. I can't wait for football season to watch games.
according to the last 12 hour barrage of hate speech I've endured, my ex-wife would probably not agree with you That being said... football can't be here soon enough. As for Finebaum Inc. did you guys hear the Orlando reporter on his show today? (seriously not stirring the pot here, just asking if you heard his segment)
Fortunately I don't consult with your ex. No I didn't hear the segment, fill me in. In fact I don't hear any of his segments, just for the record. And we are getting ready to leave for Kansas City, by way of Lexington, tomorrow morning.
She was discussing her article in the Orlando Sentinal Urban Meyer to Notre Dame rumors are magically delicious
I hope she means it, but highly doubt she lives up to that last remark. Otherwise it's just another article with no facts to just stir the pot. Like gipper said elsewhere, another dog bites man story.
If I said that being Warren Buffet's right hand man is my dream job does that mean I am leaving my own modest job if offered......hell yes it does. In Meyer's case re: ND.....there is no incentive possible....not in available talent....not in recent accomplishments.....and to some people's anguish....not in short term or long term prospects to make him make a rational change. If you look at Meyer's history and you obviously are....his progression is clearly marked by rational....no brainer decision making. It is delusional to think that a change right now to Notre Dame is a rational thought process for Urban Meyer. So.....I think his comment was more of appeasement than it was enlightenment.
AJ, why would they fire Charlie? Beano has Notre Dame playing for the National Championship after this season.
I disagree. Ego, ego, ego......Urbie's is large and there is only one Notre Dame. If Charlie can't get the job done, Urbie will think long and hard about the ND job if they come calling. The chance to become legend at ND is major ego food for a college football coach and Urbie's has a big appetite........
Buckeye T, that analysis makes me wonder about some of your other analysis in the Back Room that I have always taken for well thought out! :? :? :?
Bill, what part of it do you not think plausible? You may not agree with it and I surely wouldn't expect you to like it, but it surely is not unreasonable. Even the biggest Gator/Urbie supporters have to appreciate that he has a large ego....that said, I know of few successful people that do not have a large ego. The part about ND being one of a kind is a fact, it's legacy in college football goes without saying.....the coach that steps in and returns the program to its place among the elite will weave his own Irish legend and will be able to command an audience with the Pope......pretty heady stuff for a young college football coach with big thoughts......he loves the game, he loves the traditions, he has a picture of Woody Hayes peering down at him from his office wall.....of course he would love to write his name alongside Rockne's under the watchful of Touchdown Jesus.....there is no stretch in any part of that analysis.
Terry, what I don't agree with it that it's feasible that Meyer will consider Notre Dame after turning them down the first time. He recently said he is never going to Notre Dame and I believe him. What Dave said is pretty true. At this point in time I don't believe that Notre Dame is the draw for Meyer that he once was. I agree that most successful people have big ego's, however a big ego doesn't necessarily lead one to be the head coach at Notre Dame.
A few things before I go on. 1. I think we may have a good to great year and render all this moot. 2. I don't think Urban is coming, and I'm not sure I'd want him. (my reasons for this might surprise you and it has nothing to do with "Gator hating") 3. A lot of these people forming these opinions are in the Southern media. As one who spends a lot of time reading and listening to these people I can tell you that they know southern football, they know football, but they know jack crap about Notre Dame football. They think they do, but they don't. They all repeat the same urban legends that are spread by anti-ND folks (esp in the South) and they do so enough times that they believe them. That being said.... I'm going to make a comparison to another sport. When I was a child, the New York Yankees were a force to be reckoned with on an annual basis. From 1976 to 1981, they always seemed to be in the picture for the World Series. The men in my life (my father and grandfather) both assured me that as good as they were in that 5 year run, they were NOTHING like the Yankees of old. Starting with 1964, you have to go all the way back to the 1945-1946 seasons to find 2 consecutive years in which the New York Yankees did not win or lose the World Series. Try to wrap your head around that for a moment. From 1921 to 1964, there are only 15 seasons in which the Yankees did not play in the World Series. That is domination like I can't even imagine. That being said.. after the Billy Martin Yankees of the late 70s (very early 80s), they Yankees dropped off a bit. From 1982 to 1995, the Yankees symbolized 'once great' dominance of days gone by... but those days were never to return according to the experts. The game had changed. Free-agency had killed the dynasty. All we were told was that we could hope for nice 2 or 3 year runs at best... but then Joe Torre went on a 10 year run that showed us Yankee dominance could return again. Only idiotic decisions and the Red Sox FINALLY breaking the jinx have even slowed it a bit.. and they are still right there in the run every year now. The same could be said for the Irish, but they have had longer down periods than the Yankees historically. We've heard this all before. It can't happen. The game has changed. You can't have that kind of success or get those kind of players. We've heard that it will never be back... We've also seen it come back time and time again. We'll see.
Bill, I wouldn't place a high probability on the event, but to suggest there is no incentive is not true imho....there is always incentive for a college football coach to go to ND, because it is ND. In and of itself would it be compelling enough for Urbie to make the move at this point, probably not, but he's a young man and I'm sure has many things he wants to accomplish before he's done.....neither one of us knows what those might be......
Corey, it might surprise you but I think if I was a Notre Dame fan that I wouldn't want Meyer. I would feel that after all the good things he had said about Notre Dame that when he had the opportunity to come there he turned us down and I very likely would feel he shouldn't get a second chance. As far as Notre Dame rising again, I have no doubt that it will happen, how quick I don't know and I don't expect Notre Dame or anyone else to dominate the college football game for a long period of time. About the best you can expect is to be one of the teams that people look at most years and think that they have a chance to win it all. The playing field has been leveled in a number of ways including less scholarships than in years past and I don't think any team will win it year after year. So I think we are pretty much in agreement.
now you and I have managed to come to an agreement recently, even if it is to disagree but that's a fluff piece and an attempt at a slam job. This guy pretends to not know where the Finebaum show is (protip, see the section I started about the 10 most powerful people in the SEC.. You will notice Finebaum at number eight). (protip #2, its right down the street from the SEC HQ). The irony here is that the guy is speaking about truth, while either exposing: 1. He knows jack squat about the SEC ergo relegating his opinion meaningless or 2. He too can speak in metaphor and use humor to further a larger point while using someone (in this case Finebaum) as the vehicle to make a greater point.. In which case, he was doing EXACTLY what Finebaum was doing. When I read lines like this: I really have to wonder if the guy sleeps in Superman footie jammies with a big UM on the chest and a pint size tebow doll under his pillow? I'd stack up Finebaum's credibility against this guy's any day of the week and twice on Sunday. The thing about Finebaum that is truly great about his show is his impartiality. He isn't a Bamer, a Barner or a 'damned Vol'... He's none of those things that people accuse him of being in a given day. He is accused of all those things because he's willing to step back and look at it objectively... something this author seems incapable of doing.
Another take (somewhat long read) for those who contend that Finebaum is just a Bama homer. Rammer Jammer Yellow Hammer