Mass Shootings

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  1. George Krebs

    George Krebs Well-Known Member

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    I concur with Gipper's categories of Muslims completely. I don't trust any of the murderous sons of bitches.

    When someone tells me they want me dead, I take them at their word.
     
  2. George Krebs

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    Bad guys will always have unfettered access to all the guns they want. Always have and always will.

    What we are debating is to what degree we want to disarm the good guys.
     
  3. Motorcity Gator

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    I knew many in Detroit that really never expressed or implied that.
     
  4. George Krebs

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    That's nice. That was then. This is now.
     
  5. gipper

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    See No. 3 above.
     
  6. gipper

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    Here's an article in National Review about the myth of a "few" radical Muslims.
    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/428146/more-than-few-islamic-extremists
     
  7. Motorcity Gator

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    Gipper.... I take it that there were no Muslims up there in Birmingham or Bloomfield Hills.

    You seem to have never encountered any.
     
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    No Dave. I knew plenty. In fact here's a story about a Muslim that was a member of my wife's non-profit.
    http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/10/us/michigan-cancer-doctor-sentenced/
    With the ethics of a rattlesnake this guy not only defrauded tens of millions from Medicare but also pumped innocent folks full of poison.
     
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    Statement from Muhammed Ali:
     
  10. Motorcity Gator

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    Well spoken by the ex-Champ.

    Seems like insanity to me to condemn an entire religion as murderous and terroristic.

    Seems about as crazy as not targeting a religion who has produced said terrorists with that express intent to kill us.

    I'm all for more scrutiny.... and zero political correctness but I am against a reactionary and insane general condemnation and intolerance of an entire religion of hundreds of millions.
     
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    So let's look at what has happened recently
    We're told by our Christian hating administration that they plan to take in thousands of Syrian refugees. When questioned about whether or not there might be any terrorists among them we're told "don't worry, they'll be vetted." When the head of the FBI and Nat. Security are asked about whether or not they can be properly vetted they indicate that they can't. Then we have a terrorist attack in Cal. and one of the two was in the country on a visa. Before she got the visa she was vetted.
    Someone suggests that maybe we should stop letting in potential terrorists until we can figure how to properly screen them. The politically correct go bonkers. They cry "that's not us." OK I'll bite, we're so stupid that we'll keep letting people in even though we know that we can't properly screen them? And then the hypocrisy the same people attacking the second amendment go waving the Constitution. Unbelievable.
     
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    And while we're talking about terrorists, if we don't have enough of them out there, the America hater in the White House is making sure that there's enough in circulation.

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/12/10/former-guantanamo-detainee-makes-appearance-in-latest-al-qaeda-in-yemen-video/?intcmp=hpbt3
     
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    I saw Gipper's article earlier... makes me want to puke.

    I'm not going to condemn a whole religion (even if it does contain over a hundred versus of violence against unbelievers) especially those who are our citizens.
    BUT...
    I am 100% behind taking in ZERO refugees until we can be VERY sure they aren't the enemy.
    I'm glad to see Texas telling the Feds to pound sand on that issue.
     
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    When the peaceful Muslims lash out against the Jihadists, there will be room for tolerance in my attitude. Until that happens, not so much.
     
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    Can I possibly see the application that Dave filled out to house a few refugees at his house?
     
  16. Motorcity Gator

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    I'm on record as not being politically correct when it comes to Muslim intolerance and increased scrutiny.
     
  17. George Krebs

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    In case there is any confusion, put me in the column marked " Intolerant of Muslims" .
     
  18. Motorcity Gator

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    I guess Hitler was "intolerant" of Jews too.

    He felt Jews were a threat to all things Aryan... taking the best jobs.... putting good Germans out of work and into starvation.

    We all know how that viewpoint turned out.
     
  19. Motorcity Gator

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    There's many ways to look at this.... no broad brush can capture it.

    If the world's worst and most cruel terrorists carried my last name and were from my hometown you can bet your ass that I would be very hard pressed to migrate anywhere and travel for me would and should be extremely difficult. To expect anything less would be unrealistic.

    Now.... if my mother, father and sisters were killed in cold blood by an off target Canadian drone strike you can also bet your ass that I would be hatin me some Canadians.

    So this is complicated.... and to broad brush it like Trump and I guess all of his supporters want to do is the wrong direction and can possibly cause much more harm to the world than good.
     
  20. George Krebs

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    Liberals all over social media are trying to equate Donald Trump with Adolph Hitler. It's a classic misdirection play meant to make the victims into the guilty ones. A favorite tactic of liberal democrats everywhere. It;s childish and patently false in almost all cases but its effective because many people are totally ignorant of their historical past.

    Hitler used the Jews as patsies. He made them into a cause for Germany's post WW I stagnation and was successful into making cartoonish villains out of them. He slaughtered men, women and children with impugnity in the name of his master race concept but what he was really about was world domination. The Jews were a prop.

    Trump is suggesting that we put a moratorium on Muslim immigration until we sort this mess out. Anyone in law enforcement will tell you that we have no handle on the immigration issue whatsoever. In fact, we often hinder our own efforts at verification. Unlike the Jews of the 20s-40s, the Muslims for centuries have preyed upon all others. They live by shari law and kill and torture with abandon. They have sworn our destruction to Allah and they have lived up to their promise to date. They kill us every chance they get and will continue to do so.