Joe Paterno

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  1. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    That was a terrible price to pay. :roll: :roll:
     
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    Maybe not but at least the Ark. Bar had integrity as opposed to the Democrats in the Senate who let him skate.
     
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    I'll bet more than half the people in the country today think Clinton was "impeached" by his political enemies just because he denied getting a BJ.

    They don't realize the GOP hounds were on his trail stemming from the Paula Jones case.
     
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    Still beating that drum? Give it up. He was impeached because he lied under oath which is a felony.
     
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    Can't have one without the other George.
     
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    Clinton harassed, abused and even raped women that he worked with going back to the beginning of his political career as attorney general of Arkansas. There was a pattern of behavior that was undeniable. He spent his final day as president selling pardons for cash and favors. He then pleaded guilty to multiple felonies: obstruction of justice and perjury, in order to avoid prison...
     
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    Wow...they'll let anybody hold the office of president these days. I didn't know this was common knowledge. Must have been reported in the magazine "America....the way I see it from my perch way the fu@K over here on the right side....keep looking.....you'll find me.....use binoculars if you have to"....

    :lol:
     
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    A little memory jogger for those that conviently forget the past

    http://www.wnd.com/2003/06/19242/
     
  9. George Krebs

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    The independent investigation report is out and finds that PSU and almost all top officials, including Paterno, not only knew about Sandusky and the abuse but systematically covered it up for 14 years.

    This transcends football. Every surviving participant in this cover up should be immediately fired and subjected to both civil and criminal charges. PSU football should be stripped of 14 years worth of victories and given the death penalty ala SMU.
     
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    Agree 110% with the statement in bold but I have never been in favor of penalizing innocent fans and alumni who know nothing and have no control over a school's wrongdoing. That would be like closing down the Catholic Church because of the evil doings of a few priests.
     
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    The report is very damning to all PSU leadership, including JoePa.

    Very sad....many good lessons will be learned from how Joe conducted his life, we must also learn from the bad as well....
     
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    I can be talked out of the Death Penalty as long as all the no good SOBs who knew anything about this for 14 years and did nothing are immediately terminated. I feel strongly about the football wins being stripped though. The university put itself above the law and safety of children while Paterno pursued his coaching record knowing that his long time assistant coach and friend was systematically raping young boys using the football program as bait.
     
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    I agree also that the wins should be vacated and any championships won.

    The football program going forward should exist for those that are of better moral fiber and character than the Paterno faction....which honestly I still cannot believe I am saying.

    I mean really......Joe Pa??? WTF were you thinking man????
     
  14. George Krebs

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    I always liked Penn State and really liked Paterno. That ended in a flash.
     
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    It will certainly be interesting to see if and how the NCAA reacts.

    On the one hand, no recruiting violations are evident, no illegal benefits to players, no academic issues with players eligibility, no assertions that the coaches did the things that Rodriguez was accused of at Michigan. But clearly the focus was to cover this up so that Paterno's legacy and record would remain clean and that he would continue to pursue the all-time wins record. PSU and it's image were paramount, the boys were just tossed aside.
     
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    Certainly ethics and control were severely lacking here.

    Maybe this is in fact an NCAA infraction situation of the gravest concern.

    If so this ain't "free shoes" etc. and I have seen another article that discussed the death penalty as an approptiate NCAA response.

    Of course Joe Pa himself and his legacy received the death penalty so to speak so my bet is the school continues on with a football program but will suffer some very serious sanctions.
     
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    Hard to imagine Joe Pa sitting in the coaches strategy session saying "what are we gonna do about that damned Sandusky.....he's got a thing for little boys..."..... OK now! Let's talk about Michigan on Saturday!

    ....ugh..
     
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    Like everyone else I'm appalled by the Freeh report. There's no question that the investigation done was legitimate and certainly didn't whitewash what happened. From a civil liability point of view, the school is a goner. They're going to have to pay tens of millions to settle all the suits. I'm afraid that money can never repair the damage that has been done.
    I'm not so sure that the Big 10 and NCAA should be involved in trying to right the wrongs here. Their concern is to the competitive aspect of university conduct. As George wrote this transcends football and punishment of the football program somewhat trivializes what happened and really doesn't have the deterent factor that sanctions are supposed to have. Heads have and will roll. Criminal convictions are very possible. As I indicated the civil claims will be substantial. A coaching legend's legacy has been destroyed. The university faces some investigation by federal authorities and possible penalties.
    Punishing the current coaching staff, players and fans seems to me to be trivial given the scope of the offenses.
     
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    Penn State should drop football.