Schools shouldn't be given a pass, IMO. I do think that there appears to be more to this than yanking a scholarship at the last minute because the kid was injured...I hope so.
I do think Purdue/Hope could have brought him to West Lafayette and redshirted him and had thier staff work with him on rehab that they though he needed. Of course that would have burned a year, and he'd "only" have 4 years left, while it looks like they offered him to come later and rehab on his own and go on scholarship later preserving the full 5 year option. Now I guess what we'll never really get a balanced viewpoint on is how Hope presented his suggestions to the parents/kid/coach. My way or the highway or lets see how we can work this out to everybodies benefit. kid/parents/coach seem to be saying Hope strong armed them. I do think it's a bit of an over reaction for the coach to say Purdue isn't welcome and for Meyer to say Purdue is done in the state of Fla. By next year there will be kids who will be glad to get a Purdue offer, and if that coach tries to stand in their way will just go around him. Personally I think HS coaches sometimes get way to involved with trying to determine what is best for the kid(s). They sometimes push kids to their favorite school (alma mater), rather than let the kid just figure out where he wants to be.
Ok, I don't want to beat this dead horse, but BT I notice that now you are ready to discuss and analyze the situation since there is a Big 10 school involved. I submit you didn't give the same consideration to other schools or conferences. :?:
Maybe I'm a little slow this morning, but I'm not following you here KP? I'm opposed to unethical behavior in every corner of sport....I have a problem with any team in any conference that exhibits unethical behavior. I'm opposed to unethical behavior in recruiting practices in college sports because it gives the sport that I so love and enjoy a black eye. My views on oversigning are consistent with Dr. Machen's and I support his continued and strongly outspoken efforts to end oversigning because by its very nature, the practice often creates circumstances wherein unethical or questionable behaviors - before, during and after - the recruiting process are the simplest means by which to come into compliance with regulatory mandates.....it would seem much more effective to mandate against the practice that often creates the problem.....and in that regard, the scrutiny will always be brightest where the practice is most prevalent.....it's not personal KP, it's oversigning....
I don't think we should go to war with each other over this... It should be pointed out that Lou Saban is playing within the rules. We have an NCAA precisely for the purpose of passing rules that protect the students and the integrity of the game. If the rules need changed then we need to lobby for that and not throw bricks at those who are following the rules. As for the Purdue situation...I don't have all of the facts but suspect that this isn't a case of my school throwing a kid to the wolves. If by some chance they are doing exactly that, then I condemn it as strongly as I can. As for Alabama, as long as Lou Saban is being upfront with all of his recruits, and they buy into what he is trying to do and they aren't getting lied to and thrown aside, then I have no criticism directed towards him...though I would be in favor of tightening down the rules.
Stu, No big deal but you are showing your age. It's Nick Saban not Lou. :lol: You know what, I agree with everything that was said about the Purdue situation. While we do know that apparently the scholarship offer was withdrawn, we don't know the whole story. We may never know because the school is restricted from commenting due to privacy rules. In a matter related to the SI article on grayshirting, Alabama offered a kid a scholarship if he would wait and enroll next January. The kid decided not to accept the scholarship offer from Alabama and instead accepted a scholarship offer from Kentucky. So apparently it was all upfront and aboveboard...just like Nick ( :wink: ) Saban described in the article.
Gators picked up another QB, but his mom is not too happy and really wants him to go to Miami. Mom Unhappy
Nice to see a kid that can make his own mind up where he wants to go to college. The transitional issues she mentions are superficial......and we lost Tim Jernigan for much of the same reasons as well as a few others, It's next to impossible for these things not to happen during a coaching change. It didn't help UF at all that the OC and DC were both in the NFL playoffs and Drayton the Rec. Coordinator leaving 2 weeks prior to NSD would have killed many program's recruiting efforts. Maxpreps has Brissett as a 4 star QB......so I think UF's team ranking could be strengthened a tad by this addition.
This what I meant by superficial. Yeah....I'll bet Willy was just sittin in his posh office the last two weeks with his feet up.....just disrespectin the hell outta his momma..... :roll:
As bad as we need this QB at Miami I want him to go to the school of his choice and if its the Gators good luck to him. We have been down this road before with John Colon a few years back when his Mom faxed his loi to Miami without his knowledge but he really wanted to go to Florida. The situation was worked out among the schools and the attended UF. Ralph
This will not bode well with the ladies on the board but it has been my observation that when the kids leave the nest mothers and insanity are not far apart. RC
Ralph, I agree. And there was a safety/lb that committed to the Gators 2-3 years ago mostly because his mom wanted him to go there. On signing day he signed with Miami. Actually I don't understand the situation with us getting Driskel and now Brissett but I'll take it.
Yeah it does seem hard for Mom's to let go, at ND we won several battles because Mom was in our corner. The Lynch kid between FSU and ND and the Tuitt kid between Ga.Tech and ND. Of course in both those cases they were for the school at a distance over the close in school. Although I believe both plan to move to South Bend. I also see a lot of cases where IMHO the High School coach gets way to involved and allows his own likes/dislikes to drive the recruiting process. For parents who have never been through it before and have a highly recruited son it's sort of natural to trust the coach and for the most part coaches are honorable and don't inject themselves in the process, but there are cases when HS coaches sometimes almost become recruiters for their favorite schools. I have a kid who played DB at Kansas, his mom and dad never missed a game in his career, and they couldn't afford to fly. Lots of miles on their cars.
Oh yeah back to the 2nd QB in the class. Brantley doesn't have much eligibility left if I remember correctly, isn't next year his last? So the Driskel kid will have to be ready to play in 2012 and may have to play some in 2011. Neither of the other QB's you Gators have (Burton or Reed) seem like the type who will do well in the Weis offense. So you really need this kid to give you some depth. From reading about him, he seems like while he is raw he has played in a Pro Style offense in HS and taken snaps from under center. So he can redshirt in 2011, and be ready to take over for Driskel who has the type of talent to play 3 years and then go to the NFL. So to me signing him makes a lot of sense.
Terry, this is Brantley's last year and quite a few folks think Driskel could beat him out. Brissett makes perfect sense for Florida if he is happy with that Scenario. However it could also end up like Cam Newton with one of them transferring. When I said I am not sure it made sense I was speaking from Brissett's standpoint. But it's a real plus he isn't afraid of the competition.
Driskel would be well served to be the backup this year as long as Brantley can do the job. If the Gators can get him into games in the 4th qtr and get him some experience that will be great. That is where Mack Brown went wrong in 2009 with Garrett Gilbert who had at least as good if not better HS career as Driskel, but he played Colt McCoy virtually 100% of the time. Sure Colt was in the Heisman race and all that, but it did Garret no favors. Is Driskel an early entry? If he is then he has a big leg up on the other guy. That means the other guy is a lead pipe cinch to redshirt. That's good, it puts a year between him and Driskel and it sounds like he is not nearly the finished product that Driskel is and sitting a couple of years will be good for him in terms of his developement. Maybe he and his family realize that and are good with him not being the starter right away.