Interesting BCS Scenario

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  1. GaterzFan

    GaterzFan New Member

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    That's my point, there were a few teams more deserving and several as deserving of a spot in the game.

    I think many voters were ignorant of the facts of the various teams schedules and results or .... simply chose to ignore those facts. Further, others may have selected based upon which team they thought was playing well at the end of the year ... and someone forgot USC and Uga in that analysis.

    LSU, Oklahoma, and VaTech win conference championship games and they jump 3 to 5 spots. UGa does nothing over the weekend and drops a spot. tOSU does nopthing over the weekend and jumps 2 spots. Missouri loses a game to arguably one of the 2 best teams in the nation and it drops 6 spots.

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    See all the fun we would be missing if there was a playoff!
     
  3. Stu Ryckman

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    Then it gets even screwier...

    Jeff Sagarin believes that, to a point, the "Predictor" scores which take into account scoring margin, are better than the "ELO_CHESS" which does not.

    However the BCS will not accept his "Predictor" Rankings but uses the ELO_CHESS, so he publishes both and then the ranking that he puts out is an average of the two.

    ELO_CHESS (BCS uses this)...
    Va. Tech #1
    LSU #2
    Oklahoma #3 (now who got screwed)
    Ohio State #4 (still not too bad)
    Kansas #6
    Florida #12

    Now let's look at the "Predictor", which Sagarin believes is the most accurate (at least if you're betting on games :) )


    Predictor:
    #1 Oklahoma (screwed again)
    #2 Florida (a new screwee)
    #3 Ohio State (still not too bad)
    #6 Kansas
    #8 LSU
    #11 Virginia Tech (how's that for a drop)

    When you blend the two (Sagarin's actual published numbers), Ohio State jumps up to #2 because of the large disparity of Va Tech's ELO_CHESS and Predictor values...Kansas also jumps up higher than it's other two numbers because of the same reason:

    Actual Sagarin Published Rank (not used by BCS
    #1 Oklahoma
    #2 Ohio State
    #3 Kansas
    #4 Florida
    #5 Va Tech
    #6 LSU
     
  4. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    I think clearly the voters were sending the message that conference teams are no longer welcome to back door their way into the NC game, they have to win their conference. Neb aand OU both backdoored their way into BCS games and both got killed, OU after getting beat badly in the B12 champ game and Neb after getting killed in the final game of the 2000 season by Colorado who won the B12 championship by being out dumbassed by Mack Brown..for those who remember the coaching gaffs in that game (many by both Mack and Barnett).

    Terry
     
  5. Motorcity Gator

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    After the debacles of Neb and OU as you mention I am glad the voters take matters into their own hands and prevent that sort of thing.

    Just look at last year......Ohio State plays Michigan....again....instead of Florida and why should that have happened and if so we would be left annointing OSU as a possible repeat champion when we all know that obviously should not have been the case.

    I like the way the voters can impact the final two.
     
  6. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    Outside of SE Michigan and the talking heads at ESPN stirring up trouble I don't think a rematch between OSU and UM was ever a popular choice for the voters or the public.
     
  7. Stu Ryckman

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    Well, AJNJ was lobbying for Michigan, I think.

    None of the OSU guys were, though..."Rematch?....we don't need no stinking rematch."