Illegitimate BCS process holds game hostage

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  1. kp

    kp Well-Known Member

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    The problem is that we could solve this on the field, just like every other NCAA sport. Then it wouldn't be "My two best teams" . At the end of the season the 16 or 8 teams left standing would play it out on the field. Yes someone would be left out of the tournament but that is an argument for the marginal teams not the the central players. 8)

    PS: I do agree that the two best teams are playing for the NC this year, but I am sure there are people in Oklahoma, Oregon, Idaho and other places that disagree. :wink:
     
  2. BuckeyeT

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    If Bama wins the rematch game do they split the title? Or does LSU win on tiebreak points because their victory came in Tuscaloosa?

    There are 5 one loss teams in FBS football and the "system" selects the one team wherein outcome on the field has already been decided? Seriously?

    Speaking of second chances how does Bama merit a second chance before any of the others get even one chance?

    Speaking of "meaningful" regular season games, just what exactly did the Bama/LSU match-up this season mean?

    What an f'ed up mess this is.....
     
  3. WSU1996kesley

    WSU1996kesley Well-Known Member

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    Well, every other conference has had a shot at the SEC, now it's the SEC's turn to see if even the SEC is good enough to beat the SEC. I don't think they are, but even the gods will fear that clash.

    There is no such thing as natural selection, only those species/teams the SEC allows to live.

    The SEC once counted to infinity. Twice.

    An SEC defense is so fast, they can go back in time and be their own daddy.

    And yet, the SEC is afraid to play football when the temperature drops below 60F. Hehe.

    Why is it North teams have consistently had to deal with playing in the heat and humidity, but South teams cant be expected to return to the cold? Oh yeah, RESOURCES. *ussies.

    This system is crap.
     
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    Here's the SEC commissioner with the BCS corn

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UGz8jcbJjRw
     
  5. kp

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    Buckeye T,
    I want to make this clear so that I don't get accused of speaking in riddles.

    The BCS Championship game is between the No. 1 and the No. 2 teams under the BCS formula. LSU finished #1. Alabama finished #2. :!:
     
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    http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7320125/chris-petersen-boise-state-broncos-everyone-tired-bcs
     
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    He's got a right to be angry... His kicker blows a game winner and he doesn't even get a BCS slot... another guy's kicker blows a game and he's playing for the NC.

    This system sucks.. then again, I've said that many times over.
     
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    Thanks for clarifying that for everyone KP....we get it and it's an f'ed up mess....
     
  9. WSU1996kesley

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    either BSU or Houston should have been given an at-large bid. Not doing so is BS. Wait, I meant it's pure BCS.
     
  10. Motorcity Gator

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    I dunno.....I watched many teams play this year.

    LSU looked like a semi-pro team clearly ahead of everyone else they played........except Bama and clearly ahead of anyone else I saw play.

    I wish I could say it was not that clear.....but it was to me.
     
  11. kp

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    BT,
    That wasn't for everyone...just you. The winner of this game is the National Champion.

    I agree that we need a playoff, but even with a playoff, we could end up with a rematch.
     
  12. WSU1996kesley

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    I am not against a rematch in which two teams have both made it through their respective brackets. I'm against a rematch where there has been no valid selection process. For instance, BCS supporters like to parrot the company line tha.t "all games matter". Really? REALLY?? This year, if instead Bama had beat LSU the first time, we STILL would have had this same game because they were "obviously"the best two teams. What more proof do you need that every game does indeed NOT matter, or at the very least, equally. When it doesn't matter which team wins and you get the same martchup, that's pretty much the opposite of that game mattering.
     
  13. Motorcity Gator

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    Not only did the game matter but the way it was played and the final score mattered a great deal.

    The computer score of both teams was raised by playing the game and the everlasting perception that Bama lost by only a whisker was THE deciding factor of Bama being selected as the 2nd team in the minds of the voters.
     
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    Dave if it really mattered there is NO WAY there would be a rematch.
    End of story.

    Computer formulas and polls are all manipulated to the end desired.

    If the system was so "dead on target" there would be no point in playing the games, and there would never be big upsets.

    BTW, I love that you used "PERCEPTION" as if it's a piece of bulletproof evidence.

    :roll:
     
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    Kesley,
    I hear what you are saying and like I have said before, I am not for rematches, but Alabama is not the guilty party here. Alabama lost one game all year, just like several other schools. Alabama's loss was by three points in overtime to the number 1 team in the polls. None of the other contenders can say that. Alabama's strength of schedule was competitive with the other one loss contenders. All of that added up to Alabama being voted (and computed) into the number 2 position in the polls. The other contenders have some good arguments for being voted number 2 as well and it was close but to say that the outcome was somehow rigged is looking for a conspiracy. If everyone is so opposed to a rematch why would the BCS want to make it happen. That would seem to indicate that the BCS would want OSU in it since everyone seems to be convinced that they are better than Alabama anyway. I wish Alabama was playing Stanford and LSU was playing Oklahoma State. I would be interested in the results of those two games. 8)
     
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    I apply no blame to any team out there. It's just the flawed ******** BCS system we have to endure and understand down deep it's a bunch of crap no matter how we try to spin it. One small example is how Houston was voted ahead of Oklahoma St. by one 88 year old voter in whatever poll he was representing. His reply was "by Gawd" that was who he is voting for. This does not sound like much but it had a small effect on the outcome of who plays who in the so-called championship game...
     
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    I agree!! Even better yet would be for the winner of those games to play for a real National Championship...
     
  18. WSU1996kesley

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    Kyle
    Believe me, if it was my team I would be all for taking advantage of how it worked out. I hold nothing against alabama in this. The system is still BS though. And I am not even arguing that perhaps alabama and LSU aren't the best teams, indeed they do appear so, but that's why we should play the games.
     
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    I concur!
     
  20. Motorcity Gator

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    I don't buy that.

    "Perception" in this case is derived from results on the field.