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Historic Middle East Peace Deal

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  1. Gator Bill

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    This is huge. Unless you're in TDS.
     
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    As I wrote in the CNN section, it wasn't even their top news story.
     
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    I was watching some CNN people making the argument that this deal makes the Middle East MORE dangerous, not less. They could be right, but since EVERYTHING CNN puts out is anti-Trump, it's easily dismissed as pure Left propaganda.

    One of the reasons is that it didn't include the Palestinians. Again, that could be right, but refer to the first paragraph.

    Now, what my first thought when I heard the Palestinian point is, you're right, it didn't! But you know why? Because overtures and offers were made to Palestine to be in on negotiations early in the year, and they refused to negotiate. Either directly with Israel (for the internal borders discussion, as well as the external Middle East agreement discussion) or with the USA. Now, when you refuse to sit at the table when a chair has been given to you, and you are the least important person at that table, do you really have an excuse anymore?

    I happen to think a lot of pressure is being put on Iran and China as a result of this agreement. The pressure on China is directly intended by Trump, which is the much larger problem in the world right now. Palestine would have been a nice footnote to the deal, but of minor consequence in the bigger scheme.

    If Iran and China respond poorly, of course the Left Coalition will paint Trump as a warlike tyrant intent on sowing discord worldwide. But, if they respond positively and we end up with a universal Middle East peace accord, the Left Coalition will paint Trump as a warlike tyrant intent on sowing discord worldwide.
     
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    Saw a montage of videos last night which was commentaries after Trump pulled out of the "deal" (they never signed it) with Iran. That anal cavity Kerry was spouting how the Middle East would now explode. CNN, MSNBC and the rest of the media all had morons saying how this was detrimental to peace. What complete fools (as well as those who watch and buy that bilge.)
    Soon to follow will probably be Jordan, Saudi Arabia and others who fear Iran (especially since Obama gave them all that cash to foment terrorism.) Once again the individual who they claim doesn't know what he's doing is running rings around the prior administrations foreign diplomacy.
    Memo to those who listen to the main stream media, we don't want to be liked by our allies, we want to be respected by them and feared by our enemies. Being liked is another name for being taken advantage of.
     
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    "allies, we want to be respected by them and feared by our enemies"

    I hope you understand that right now we are neither one of those. And with our nation so divided we are probably as vulnerable to our enemies as we ever have been historically.
    And when Trump loses the election and refuses to leave office or accept the election results he risks throwing our nation into anarchy.
    But he really doesn't give a shit about that.
     
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    What crap. During Obama's administration the Russians took Crimea, Obama did nothing. Our military was terribly underfunded and half our war planes could not fly at any one time because of a lack of spare parts. NATO countries year after year did not live up to their defense commitments and Obama did nothing except send 1.8 Billion to Iran. He treated our ally Israel like shit while he kissed the Mullahs ass in Iran. China was busy building islands in the South China Sea threatening our allies and shipping lanes, and our point man with China, Biden was getting millions of dollars for his son to invest from the Chinese. And now that corrupt bastard want to be President?
     
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    U.S. Image Plummets Internationally as Most Say Country Has Handled Coronavirus Badly

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    Yeah, Europe knows how to handle the virus.
    'Very serious situation' unfolding in Europe, WHO warns, as cases rise dramatically
    They don't know how to defeat the virus and their economies are badly wounded.
    I'm tired of this "our nation is divided" crap. The day after Trump took office the left was out in the streets chanting " Not our President." Then we had the vile, nasty Russian collusion claim. Then we had the bullshit impeachment. It's not Trump it's the immature, corrupt left that just can't get over losing an election.
     
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