Haley is done

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  1. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    Not a big surprise, but we now have the Senile Old Guy vs the Miserable Human Being.

    sigh.
     
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    Hhhmmmm....did you mean the Crooked political mafia you can buy me anytime lifelong swamp resident...versus I love this country and its capital interest opportunities drain the swamp and actually respect the Constitution guy?
     
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    That is a most creative take on a guy with his pattern of evidenced behavior that I've ever seen. In all my years on the planet, I've not witnessed anybody in a position of leadership with less respect for our Constitution or the rule of law. Bear with me while I note a just few tidbits just to refresh my memory:

    - found liable for sexual assault,

    - company convicted of felony tax fraud, CFO in jail now facing perjury charges

    - guilty of defamation to the tune of an $80+ million fine,

    - company guilty of falsifying business records and insurance fraud to the tune of a $400+ million disgorgement penalty and barred from serving as an officer or director of any New York corporation for three years,

    - under New York felony indictment for falsifying business records to pay hush money to a porn star to conceal damaging information and unlawful activity from American voters before and after the 2016 election,

    - under federal felony indictment for willfully retaining national security information and allegedly obstructing prosecutors’ investigation,

    - under Georgia felony indictment for trying to overturn the 2020 election, as part of a broader alleged racketeering conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election. 3 of his his closest campaign attorneys have already confessed and been convicted in this case and directly implicated Trump in their testimony,

    - Under federal felony indictment for four federal crimes including conspiracy to defraud, obstruction and conspiracy of rights in his attempts to overturn the 2020 election,

    - Indictments pending in Arizona and Michigan election cases as well

    - Planned, organized and incited a violent assault on our Capitol intended to interfere with the certification of the 2020 election and peaceful transfer of power and failed in his duty as Commander in Chief refusing to act to preserve, protect and defend as the lives of our citizens, law enforcement (at least one of whom died in the line of duty in her defense), members of Congress and his Vice President were in jeopardy.....as he watched.....live

    Yep, I can see that....quite the resume for a law and order candidate. Clearly speaks for itself. "God help us....."
     
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    White house announces that there will be 2 intermissions tonite for the SOTU Address.

    Yep. Weekend at Bernies in full effect. Keep the dosages even.
     
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    Seems to be the prevailing argument from the MAGA wing.....

    Have you heard this one?

    Twos guys sitting in a bar talking election. One guys says, "Your guy has been found to be a rapist, fraud, cheat, swindler, bully, betrayed his country, plotted to overturn the will of the people, refused to defend his country from a violent assault on the Capitol and her defenders, banned from doing business in his home state, obstructed the investigation and refused to return national security documents, hero-worships a brutal dictator, enemy of the country and international war criminal and evidenced to the world his complete incompetence at managing the country during a time of crisis. How could you possibly support that guy????

    MAGA guys says, "The other guy is old"



    I'll be here all year.....
     
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    I'm not trying to wade into this becaue I'm certainly no fan of the Donald, but if anyone tries to imply that Biden's only fault is being senile... well you haven't been paying attention (for a LONG TIME).
    The dude and his family has so much back room/foreign money he probably never knew what his true allegiances might be.
     
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    Scott, you know as well as I that is the classic logical fallacy "what aboutism" wherein rather than seek to defend an indefensible position, the opposition tries to deflect criticism by trying to discredit the "other guy" by pointing out alleged misdeeds or shortcomings. With no refutation forthcoming, in so doing, unwittingly they validate the claims against their man. Briefly on that point, to the best of my knowledge, one of them has evidence, indictments and convictions by a jury, the other allegations and innuendo from the political opposition yet to be evidenced. If enough evidence surfaces such that an indictment follows, excellent, I'll then say Biden's a crook too....hang both the MF'ers

    Until then, how could it possibly be in our national interest to support a convicted crook and an incompetent? Not a Biden fan, I'm no Biden fan, fine, what of the other Republican candidates??? How can this guy be the standard bearer for anything noble much less the greatest country on earth? It's just surreal, otherworldly
     
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    Just a few comments on the latest winner rant.
    It's utterly amazing that tens of millions of Americans have shown by their votes that they don't for a second buy these ******** lawsuits and criminal charges. But I guess that the same folks who bought the Russian Collusian will but that crap. I personally, can't fathom a millionaire playboy having to assault some woman in a dept. store dressing room to get his jollies. But they always come up with an Anita Hill or Blasey Ford. Normally a claim like this would have been long barred by the Statute of Limitations but coincidentally the NY heavily Democratic legislature passed a law allowing her to sue. Poor Tara Reade. Her claim about beins assaulted by Biden was idnored. Then again, he's a Democrat. The defamation suit is just the sequal to the phony assault claim
    The tax claim against the company CEO was him taking illegal writeoffs and in no way enriched the Trump company.
    We just finished the victimless fraud case tried in front of a rabid Trump hating judge in NY. In a rare case of a politician actually fuffilling a campaign promise, the NY attorney general Letita James did "get Trump" as she promised. I think most kangaroos were too ashamed to hear that case but they found one.
    Having seen NYC juries work their political magic, many of the Defendants in the Ga. case have chosen to plead to lesser crimes and avoid being railroaded.
    And then there's the Stormy Daniels "hush money" trial. Previously rejected by both the National Election board and the prior regime in the NYC DAs office, the current holder of that office has time on his hands since he seldom prosecutes any criminals in NY. Trump haters like to refer to the money paid Daniels but when a Democrat does it, it's called a nondisclosure agreement.https://www.npr.org/2020/02/21/8082...ints-about-comments-can-now-seek-nda-releases
     
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    10,000 comedians out of work, but we got BuckT.
     
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    I'm not saying EITHER is a better choice.
    I'm not defending Trump, simply stating that Biden is wretchedly dirty and for anyone to imply that he's a better choice is disingenuous at best.
    Biden's flaws run just as deep, but he's been protected by the old guard and permanent bureaucracy that wants to stay in place.
     
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    Diamond and Silk still are on twitter even though Diamond passed away. They were a constant presence on Fox supporting Trump back in 2020. But, it looks like Silk was not a fan of the GOP response speaker to the SOTU.

     
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    I try to stay current with breaking news but I must have missed the story that the Covid vaccines also can cure cancer.

     
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    "The vaccines (mRNA) that saved us from Covid......."

    Referring to the use of mRNA vaccines to fight cancer, in some cases successfully.
    Scientists Make Progress on Cancer Vaccines
     
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    ...saved us from Covid... what a joke.
    Had they been targeted correctly at the risk groups, this wouldn't even be news other than it faded off into the sunset as it should.
     
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    How many times last night did we hear about the rich not paying "their fair share?" You think that someone with a son under indictment for not paying millions of taxes would have some shame. Congressional investigators have discovered numerous shell companies in the names of his family members. These "companies" have no know business but traditionally are used to evade taxes and launder money. I'll forgive him. After all he's old, feeble and not capable of being prosecuted for unlawfully taking classified documents and discolsing their contents to individuals without clearance.
     
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    The tax the rich platform as the cornerstone of one's economic policy is not quite the stuff I believe consistent with sound economic policy. I'm wondering where they are gonna find those angels drifting down from the heavens that are gonna tell us what "fair" is....pffft. The tax on unrealized cap gains is another good one.....as our net worth declines after we liquidate elements of our portfolio and the market tanks are we gonna get our money back, at least a credit??? Not holding my breath, but mercifully I think that one is DOA
     
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    A rebuttal to the rebuttal. Only a minute long. Scroll down to the second video:
     
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  18. Terry O'Keefe

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    Is anyone shocked or surprised by this? I'm not.

     
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    Nor am I.
     
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    Not shocked at all, but pleasantly surprised. He spoke the truth about Trump's betrayal during his brief time on the campaign trail. I'm curious just how many of Trump's former senior staff, Cabinet and/or national intelligence/security staff have or will endorse him. In other words, those that knew the truth of his betrayal and the essence of his character. I can't think of many at all. Not Barr, not Cipollone, not Tillerson, not Bolton, not Coats, not Kelly, not Milley, not Mattis, not Haspel, not Esper, not Chao, even Meadows has turned state's evidence......maybe Pompeo, Carson, Mnuchin.
     
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