GET SOME FREQUENT FLYER MILEAGE WILL YA FLORIDA

Good one on the Big 10 weather....

"4. Florida fans are perfectly happy with the schedule as it is...even though it leads others to roll their eyes at the lack of travel."

I would say we are happy that we have a tough enough schedule that keeps us at or near the BCS top when we need it from a schedule toughness standpoint. If that were to slip then we might not be so happy.

The key is the fact that UF will be playing FSU every year and I just don't see that going away...probably ever.. so this dead horse lives on into eternity.

 

I want to take just a couple of more whacks before we move on to B10 weather or why ND needs to join a conference!

 

Hey....my own personal favorite take on the Big 10 weather is when I sat at one of the hottest games I ever sat at in Michigan Stadium to watch Miami take on Michigan.

I think the canes were not used to that kind of heat with no seabreeze.... :wink:

 

No ... your queries have been answered repeatedly. I'm sorry you do not understand what has been quite clearly communicated.

Read what has already been posted several times. And to expand, it's obvious that on average and 80% of the time, UF plays a schedule that is more difficult than 114 of the other 115 FBS schools. So, typically (80% of the time), UF plays a schedule that's more difficult than 99.138% of the teams in the FBS. Should UF be asked to play a schedule that's more difficult than 99.5% of FBS schools ... 90% of the time? 100% of the time? What's appropriate?

Now ... what's funny about you post above is the fact that you've, again, failed to respond to several of my questions, one being .....

On what reasonable, rational, and/or logical basis SHOULD the team that has played a schedule that's averaged a ranking of #5 in 8 of the last 10 seasons be asked top play an even more difficult schedule .... when so many of the other "top" BCS-FBS teams play relatively inferior schedules and many of those teams are doing nothing to increase the difficulty of their comparitively inferior schedules?

And BTW ... your ad hominems ... ie your opinion as what types of opponents UF want to watch play in The Swamp .... do not constitute a response, but rather an erroneous conclusion.

 

Personal foul! On Gaterz Fan. Illegal use of Latin in a post in an attempt to impress.

15 Yards and loss of argument points!

8)

 

There we have it. The Gators play the toughest schedule in the NCAA and the other teams like Texas or Ohio State or Michigan come up short most of the time even if they add a home/home with another BCS conference school.

 

No discussion from me, but a couple of points of clarification.

• First there have been 4 Gators post here. Me and RoGator would like to see us play some home and home with out of state schools. However at least with me it's not enough of an issue to get riled up about.
  
  If we did play it would be an early season game which have not been 1aa except when a team cancels us as UCF did.
  
  It would also be one of the years when there is an extra weekend.
  
  Not all Gator fans agree with this issue. However the majority do believe that our AD is among the best and understand why things are done as they are.
  
  Big 10 weather can suck in Nov/Dec
  
  It's not to exciting in Florida either when a hurricane hits.
  
  Kickoff is less than three weeks away.

Hope this helps

 

Well, the data - as presented on the first page of this thread - from the last decade supports this assertion. AFA what the future holds .... we'll see the impact of conference re-alignments and the addition or elimination of conference championship games, which by the way usually increase the difficulty of a team's schedule.

Folks can choose to ignore the data or diminish it's value ... and that's their choice. We'll just disagree. All's good.

 

I forgot to put Rogator in your camp Bill....kudo's to Ro for his open mind.

BTW: I don't really blame Gators for supporting their AD. He's certainly sitting on top of a very successfull football and basketball duo. I'm guessing other Gator sports are doing ok as well.

Texas fans have respect for DeLoss Dodds as well but aren't afraid to put his feet to the fire over Greg Davis or the DCoord who gave up 63 pts to OU. Also not afraid to call him out for scheduling too many meaningless non-conf games.

ND fans have been in general upset with a number of things about the program for awhile and take dead aim at the Pres of the University and the AD. I guess it always depends on how things are going.

 

Leave it to Bill to address the matter in a non-adversarial tone from the Florida side. I also consider it a non-issue. As long as the quality and competitiveness of the SEC remains at the level of the past several years, Florida's SOS will remain high regardless of the patsy portion of the schedule. In college football, things tend to run in cycles. Should the competitiveness in the SEC tend to diminish over time - an unlikely scenario - perhaps Florida would look elsewhere for non-conference opponents. Heck, they might even decide to travel outside their region to enhance their SOS. In the meantime, if Florida fans want home games with lesser opponents as a portion of their non-conference schedule, let 'em have them. That formula works well for some programs with heavy conference schedules and not as well for others.

 

The latest in a series of red herrings.....in truth, the Gators have NEVER travelled.....EVER. They didn't travel when FSU was a girls school. They didn't travel back in the day when the Canes were struggling with Rollins on the recruitinig trail. They didn't travel when the SEC was 'Bama and the dwarfs.....they just have never travelled and this is the most recent excuse. I don't believe they have ever travelled north of the mason-dixon line and won a football game on an opponents home field or travelled to the home field of another major power out of conference and won....EVER. I don't believe that there are too many other major programs who can make that claim.

In truth, there is nothing wrong with Bill's point of view......they don't want to schedule difficult out of conference road games, that's just the way it is, has always been, that's the way the AD wants to keep it and he's fine with it.... no shame in that. It just is what it is....deal with it.

The other fellas doth protest too much me thinks....

 

Where did I say I wouldn't want that. Heck..I'm in favor of dropping FSU if that is what it takes.....but that is never going to happen. In the interim...so be it as long as it works as well as it does. I do not think we owe anything to anyone as long as FSU remains on the schedule however.

I agree with most of what Sid says except that I can't think of one prgram in a major conference that doesn't have a couple of non-con patsys on the schedule each and every season.

And...BT....before SEC expansion in the 1980s UF went to SouCal, Rutgers, Memphis and Syracuse.

Without that SEC expansion this all would be a moot debate obviously.

I guess "never" ain't really never... :wink:

 

It is....we just have radically different definitions of travelling.....so be it.

 

LOL at the assertion of red herring that's been thrown adrift in that sea of unsubstantiated verbiage ............... particularly in light of the factual evidence supplied hereby indicating one big-10/11/12 school CHOOSES to play a top-20 schedule only 4 out of every 10 years.

Looking back at the 2006 ranking for said school, even after playing in the BCS title game, it's schedule still did not make the top-20, ending the year at #24.

 

No sh*t....travelling to the University of Red China wouldn't save that weak scheduling.....

 

Well, the objective should be to play a good schedule and for some corners of college football fandom to assert the most difficult schedule should be made more difficult ... is just absurd, particularly when you objectively evaluate the "quality" of the schedules played by the schools of which those folks are fans.

It akin to the guy benefitting from the EITC proclaiming others should pay more in federal incomes taxes, at even higher marginal tax rates.

But so it goes, year after year.

 

:lol: :lol:

You got it...that's us. For over 100 years now, it is known far and wide that when our AD picks up the phone to do his part of the scheduling work, he never has to leave the boundaries of the state nor even to use a different area code....to make a long distance call to a distant non-conf foe. Yessirree, clever fella that you are, you got me there.....and I'm alright with that, it is what it is, deal with it.

 

Let's try something. You ready for an experiment Dave? Try not bragging on the SEC for, oh, maybe a month. Let's see how many "attacks" Corey makes on the SEC.

I believe this experiment will show that Corey blasts the SEC with the same enthusiasm that you promote the SEC head and shoulders above all others. No SEC fan on this board feels good about promoting the SEC, including myself, because we are embarrassed by your constant commercials for SEC Superiority.

Another experiment... nah, you wouldn't stay away that long.

 

....likewise. 8)

 

Welcome back BuckeyeT.

And leave it to the dynamic duo to not even realize that you have been absent for a while. I don't think that welcome is in their vocabulary.