GET SOME FREQUENT FLYER MILEAGE WILL YA FLORIDA

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  1. Motorcity Gator

    Motorcity Gator Well-Known Member

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    So.....we're sceered?

    Nah....just smart.

    Gaterz....you have just made a few heads explode.... :wink: :lol:
     
  2. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    If you don't want to that's fine, I don't make the argument that UF doesn't play a tough schedule. But everytime this comes up you guys complain that your SEC schedule is too tough and that you need the money. I'm just saying that's a bogus argument. You just don't want to. Other SEC teams who arguably have tougher SEC schedules (they have to play the Gators) get out and play intersectional games, other teams like Texas, OU, also have neutral site games get out and play intersectional games. Texas and OU don't have near the TV contracts ($$$$) that the Gators do and they still find a way to do it.

    So basically you don't want to do it, don't give us this BS that you need the money and your schedule is already too tough.
     
  3. IrishCorey

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    Yeah, what Terry said.
     
  4. Motorcity Gator

    Motorcity Gator Well-Known Member

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    ...oh yeah.....and who's gonna make us? :wink:
     
  5. GaterzFan

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    Why should UF waste $$ playing an even more difficult schedule, when it already plays the most difficult? Those $$ can be used to further expand athletic facilities, fund more athletic scholarships, and provide $$ to the university's academic programs.

    I guess folks with a genuine interest in this matter - "improving" UF's football schedule - should email one of the most successful ADs in all of college athletics and tell him he needs to change how he develops UF's football schedule ....... and that he NEEDS TO MAKE the most difficult schedule in FBS over the last 10 years even more difficult. It's apparent that having the discussion on this board some two, three, four times each seasons over the last few years (probably more) .... hasn't had the desired impact on Foley.

    Of course, being entirely objective and equitable in their review of other teams' schedules, I expect they'll also email the ADs at Texas, Notre Dame, USC-w, Tennessee, tOSU and Nebraska and tell them they need to improve the difficulty of their football schedules. Based upon the analysis of schedule difficulty over the last decade, that's seemingly more warranted than UF playing a #4 or #5 schedule every single year without exception, while other top FBS teams seem to average schedules rankings of #10-#20 in only 4 or 5 years out of each decade. 8)

    Also ... if anyone's really interested in knowing how UGa handles their scheduling ...... just check with the UGa Athletic Director. Oh ........ wait .......
     
  6. Motorcity Gator

    Motorcity Gator Well-Known Member

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    I do agree that nationally....fans want to see it happen because the Gators are so popular and so damned relevant.

    Maybe if UF did get out more they could pick up more Cali players like they did this year in Ronald Powell. That might be a reason to do it.

    Otherwise.....in all seriousness I do understand the entertainment value of why some would like to see it.....and I understand why others would like to see it as well.....hoping the Gators would fall on their ass and get out of that national picture.

    Given the wallopings UF doled out to recent champions of the Big 10, Big 12 and Big East why should UF jeopardize BCS success by adding to an already very difficult schedule?

    I think most Gator fans would see it as being foolish.
     
  7. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    I can buy that you Gators don't want to change your schedule, and it's not about schedule strength your's is just fine. However please don't give me the lame ass excuse that you need the money, when you already get more money than anybody for your football games.

    Texas fans are excited about a series recently scheduled with Notre Dame and they are happy to give up a guaranteed home game win against some lame team. And while Texas doesn't get as much TV money as the Gators to fund our non-football sports they are doing just fine thank you very much and Texas football fans are happy to play an excellent intersectional game every year. Oh yeah and we have a neutral site game every year like you Gators. Still rather play a home/home out of our region.
     
  8. GaterzFan

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    Yet, the change being proposed on this thread WILL yield an increase strength of schedule.
    I don't know where you're getting a "lame excuse" except from maybe a cane fan ..... but I have clearly indicated why UF should not change it's scheduling philosophy. There simply is NO REASON to change it. My point about the finacial consideration is ..... why should any school playing one of the most difficult schedules in all of football .... incur additional costs and/or forfeit revenues to play an even more difficult schedule? That would just be irrational .......something Jeremy Foley is not.
    That's great. I believe both schedules warrant a change like this. Of course, this series comes about when the Big-12 is in all likelihood no longer a 12-team league and probably doesn't play a conference championship game.
     
  9. RECcane

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    Gator fan it pretty much looks like the answer is out there and Terry has seen it. He's just wondering why we had to dance a waltz all these years in getting the real reason for no interconference play from UF.


    Sorry Ralph. As a moderator I have to uphold rules that I sometimes am guilty of breaking myself and have to be reined in. Sometimes people deserve what they get but rules are rules. I had to edit the first word in your post. Hope you understand. Now, since he quoted it, I'll leave it up to the Gator to edit it out of his post if he feels like it.
     
  10. George Krebs

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    This schedule is too tough?

    Sat. Sept. 4th Miami-Ohio 12:00 P.M. ESPN
    Sat. Sept. 11th South Florida 12:21 P.M. SEC TV
    Sat. Sept. 18th at Tennessee (Knoxville TN) 3:30 P.M. CBS
    Sat. Sept. 25th Kentucky
    Sat. Oct. 2nd at Alabama (Tuscaloosa AL)
    Sat. Oct. 9th L.S.U.
    Sat. Oct. 16th Mississippi State (Homecoming)
    Sat. Oct. 30th Georgia (Jacksonville FL) 3:30 P.M. CBS
    Sat. Nov. 6th at Vanderbilt (Nashville TN)
    Sat. Nov. 13th South Carolina
    Sat. Nov. 20th Appalachian State - Div. 1AA (Senior Day)
    Sat. Nov. 27th at F.S.U. (Tallahassee FL)
    Sat. Dec. 4th SEC Championship Game (Atlanta GA) 4:00 P.M. CBS
     
  11. GaterzFan

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    What?
     
  12. GaterzFan

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    Well, history indicates that 2 out of every 10 years, UF plays a schedule that is not in the top-20 in difficulty. Given the schedule difficulty of the last few years

    2006 #1
    2007 #3
    2008 #2
    2009 #6

    2010 may be one of those years out of the top-20.

    I'm going to guess it'll be similar to what these schools play on average over a decade:
    4 - 4.5 - Texas A&M -
    4 - 8.8 - Southern Cal -
    4 - 9.0 - SoCarolina -
    4 - 9.0 - Stanford -
    4 - 9.3 - Ohio St. -
    4 - 9.8 - Texas -
    4 - 10.5 - Tennessee -
    4 - 12.8 - Texas Tech -
    4 - 13.5 - Oklahoma St. -
    4- 13.8 - LSU -

    and better than what ND usually plays.
     
  13. George Krebs

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    Don't get carried away. You guys rarely take a plane ride. Try playing coast to coast, at sea level and a mile high, hot weather and cold. Hell you're never even out of your time zone.
     
  14. Terry O'Keefe

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    Gaeterz nobody said you had to schedule Texas at Austin. But UGA is playing in Colorado this year, has been to Ariz, and Oklahoma State. All teams you probably feel like would be bottom of the SEC, so no increase in schedule difficulty.

    Face it, it's not about the money, it's not about the strength of schedule those excuses don't hold any water. Clearly Gator Fans prefer to see Charleston Southern, The Citadel and Fla A&M at home. That's fine, Texas fans like to see the team get out and play teams from other sections, don't really care all that much for games against The Citadel or Fla A&M type of teams. Gator fans apparently like exhibition games.
     
  15. Tennessee Tom

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    They play in the Central and Eastern time zones. :wink:
     
  16. GaterzFan

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    Those game would/do not replace an SEC opponent on an already very difficult schedule. Can't drop an SEC opponent for an OOC game.
    Maybe Texas needs to schedule as it does just to achieve the level of schedule difficulty it does .... which is okay, but not as good as some.

    As far as what UF fans like ..... I think they enjoy the team playing a very competitive schedule more oftern than most every other school in the FBS ..... and I think they appreciate the opportunity of attending those game in Gainesville. Me .... I'll take a game in Gainesville over South Bend, Lincoln, SW LA, Columbus, etc. Austin would be a nice trip, but rather save the $travel$ for the SECCG and a BCS bowl.
     
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    Gaterz no insult was intended...You laid out the facts very nicely and your scheduling and ranking is among the best in the nation. You along with MCG have said that this is what it is and we are happy with it and give props to our AD Foley.

    The original question was why don't the Gators travel outside their comfort zone of normal play, you answered that. What is surprising is in past topics and discussions the answer has been funds, sec scheduling etc, etc...Now instead of the normal answers we have been hearing from past discussions its we are happy with our approach and see no reason to change it. That's it, just a change of tactics or answers to this old question that has been discussed at length for some time.

    RC
     
  18. Terry O'Keefe

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    Texas schedule is just fine, thank you very much. We just like to get out and see the world a little bit, Gator fans apparently want to stay home and beat the tar out of 1AA teams. It's fine, you play a tough conference schedule, heck you guys are so much better than everybody else you probably wouldn't have much to fear from trips to Columbus, South Bend, Ann Arbor, Happy Valley, West Coast, etc.
     
  19. Motorcity Gator

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    Maybe.....but trips to Glendale, Miami and New Orleans didn't scare us too much.

    I dunno though....a trip to AA might just strike fear since we haven't handled the Wolverines too well much to my chagrin.
     
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    No...we don't.

    But games with Florida State can be quite interesting and in fact FSU-UF was one of the great NCAA games every season in the 90s.

    Next year we play Miami as well.......so I guess we'll settle for that major non-con game while teams like Texas travel once in a while out of conference since the Horns don't want to play at TCU right now...that's right.....I'll bet the Texas AD runs from a home and home with the Horned Frogs like a scalded rabbit. Did manage to paycheck TCU in to Austin in 2007 I noticed. What.....no home and home?