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My late father-n-law.....a Buckeye grad and a great guy.....was at that game and I have heard much about it of course over a few Bloody Marys in years past.

Now that was a tough road game for the Wolverines....

The worst weather I sat in for one of these clashes between UM and OSU was in the late 80s at Michigan Stadium where the gametime temp was probably around 25 degrees. No snow.....but chilly nonetheless.

The coldest I ever was at a football game was the 1983 Gator Bowl in Jax....UF vs. Iowa.....22 degrees and a wind chill in the single digits...brrrr.

Coldest I ever was at the Swamp was vs. LSU in 1972.....41 degrees and a pouring down rain.......hypothermia!

 

Actually that picture is from a 1948 game at Shibe Field in Philly between the Chicago Cardinals and the Philadelphia Eagles. I just kinda liked the picture.

Here are some pics from the 1950 Snow Bowl game;

 

I know we have cold weather late in the season at ND, but it's really not that common to play in the snow. The Irish had a "Snow Bowl" as well, it was vs Penn State in 1992. South Bend and N.Indiana I believe gets it's deep lake effect snow more in late Dec through Feb. Sid can give you more information on that though.

BTW that game in 1992 was cold to start, but when I look at the Youtube video of it there was no snow on the field when the game started.

 

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I don't get it...trick question? What difference would it make whether or not you've ever "personally been in attendance"? But, to your point, yes it is an easy trip.....we've frequently made same day trips up and back - almost like not travelling at all.....

 

OK...looks like for you the entire aspect of a non-conference road game revolves around the travel itself......not the level of opponent.....or the intensity of it's fans.

I didn't realize everyone posting in this topic was speaking only of the act of travel. In reality I don't think anyone else looks at it that way.

I have personally done a lot of travel.....for work....as I am sure you have.

I have spent 180 plus nights in Manhattan as well as Chicago, 100 nights in LA and just got back from the NW 5 weeks ago.

I have had business travel to every major city in America except for a handful like New Orleans, Phoenix and Philly.

The point is.....travel is travel. It's the job you have to accomplish when you get there that is important.

 

This whole topic reminds me of something... I just can't put my... wait a minute... That's it!

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All you fellers sit around and talk about this and leave it up to Tennessee to do something about it! :?

Tennessee does everything it can do to lower Florida's strength of schedule. Maybe now they will have to travel

Crap! :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :?

 

Not every SEC team bull rushes into a schedule more difficult than they need. I clicked on a link on my MSN homepage and this article pops up:

http://tennessee.scout.com/2/993619.html

It remains to be seen which way this turns out but I don't blame Tenn for using a little analysis and common sense in their approach..

 

Beat you to it by one minute.

 

Dave, You'll see in the article I posted that the majority of Tennessee fans are, like me, pi$$ed off at Hamilton for allowing this. This was discussed between Fulmer and Hamilton in 2007 before the 2008 season. Pi$$ed me off then. It was discussed between Kiffin and Hamilton in January 2009. It also pi$$ed me off at that time. It is happening now and I'm still pi$$ed.

I knew this in both of the previous years and didn't say anything here... not with the Gator contingent that would have been ready to pounce all over it.

 

Nope, that's not it......it's everything in it's entirety in combination with the other elements.....new planes, trains, buses and autos....new hotels, meals, practice facilities, time zones, climates, airports, cities, traffic, campuses, stadiums, locker rooms, fans, opposing teams and their traditions.....it is the whole enchilada.

 

I'm not pouncing on it Tom.

I think it is prudent for me anyway to not pass judgement on what the Tenn athletic department feels will most benefit their program.

They understand their needs and the direction they want to go in a helluva lot better than I do.

 

Lets face UF, ND, Ohio State, Texas, who ever have a lot more fans than fit into their stadiums on Sat. So interesting games to those that aren't going to be in the stadium anyhow have a different meaning than for those who are going to actually be in the Stadium.

Texas Alums who can afford to travel to non-conf away games enjoy the trips and look forward to them. Granted the road team rarely gets more than 5K of tickets so it's not a big group, but still it's a group that enjoys it. Scott88 I believe has road tripped to man if not all the A&M non-conf road games in the last 10 years. I dare say that if you gave him the choice of a guaranteed home win vs UL-La, or a road trip to Clemson...he'd take the road trip to Clemson (where they lost by the way).

 

I have highlighted those elements in play BT when UF goes to FSU:

.....new planes, trains, buses and autos....new hotels, meals, practice facilities, time zones, climates, airports, cities, traffic, campuses, stadiums, locker rooms, fans, opposing teams and their traditions.....

And in FSU's case.....almost always a high quality opponent that would like nothing better the whole damned season than to beat the Gators.

In fact...I'll bet there are some nole fans this year that would rather enjoy a win over Florida than win the ACC. UF has won 6 straight and those guys over in Tally are frothing at the mouth to beat Florida.

 

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Seriously? Seriously? You either don't get it or you refuse to get it.....in any event you're hopeless.......carry on.

 

BT...I do get it....just wondering if you did.

Final statement here on this post.......no...UF does not travel any significant distance and cross time zones like some teams do occasionally for a non-conference opponent.

UF does however have an annual non-conference opponent who is very competitive and in years past was an elite team....making it very diffciult to play them especially in the very week before the SEC Title game.....which by the way is still a scenario that I hate.


I stress that it happens occasionally for other teams because the travel doesn't happen every season even for those that do and it is not always against quality opposition when it does occur.

 

2 things.

1. T, Welcome back.

2.

What a load of bull. The Pac10 team was left out of the BCS title game when they finished #1 in the polls!

What you are missing is that your 'due' was assumed from the start of this abortion... everyone else seemingly has to 'earn' theirs.

That, my friend, is at the heart of this issue.

In the 12 years of the BCS system, you have won 6 NCs including a 2 loss champion.

In the previous 17 years to the Roy (SEC Commissioner)Kramer's darling being instituted, you had won 2 NCs.

You can call this a 'long trend' if you want to but you surely must see how some view this as a bit of home cooking?

 

So Corey...what do you make of 13-0 Auburn getting left out while USC....armed with semi-pro Reggie Bush got in to the title game?

Man....I do wish there were some fervent Auburn fans on this board to absolutely eat you alive on that post!

You crack me up dude.... :lol:

As a matter of fact....while I remembered Georgia being preseason #1 to make it FIVE SEC teams at the top of the BCS I forgot about Auburn which makes it HALF of the damned conference at the top of the BCS at one time or the other in the past 12 years.

Or.... if Tom thinks this is unnecessary SEC bragging....?.... in response to your post.....then how about FIVE of the the SEC's 12 teams at or near the top in the past 11 years with 5 BCS Titles won?

Come on man...give it up and lets see what happens in the next 11 years.

 

Corey,

ditto my man....the more things change, the more they remain the same, eh?

Nobody questions that the SEC is a fine, fine football conference, year in and year out fielding teams that on any given day can compete at the highest levels....the folly is to then assume that they are all good, all the time and because they are all good all the time, the conference then must necessarily be so far superior to all others that all those inferior pale in relation thereby making any reasonable comparison a silly exercise even to the degree of dismissing what happens on the field .....

To the point, our SEC friends Bama, UF, LSU have all won national titles most recently....kudos to them,well done. They also hold something else in common with one another.....the last time each of them played a team from the Big 10 on the field, they lost. Auburn, well, had Northwestern not lost the services of their kicker and been forced to go for the TD on 4th down in OT in the bowl game last year, they would possibly have joined the group....yes Northwestern.

The point.....yes SEC traditionally fields some great teams....are they all always better than there counterparts in other conferences.....is Bama always better than Minny? Is LSU always better than PSU? Is UF always better than TUN? Is Auburn always better than NW? Iowa? Wisky? Of course not....to then suggest that the SEC is always so far superior to all others because some members have achieved some success in some games in some years is folly.....when I see it on the field, head to head, consistently over a meaningful period of time, I will take note.....until then, I'll watch what happens on the field, head to head, consistently, over a meaningful period of time and take it from there......

 

MCG

Are you asserting that the SEC is always the best conference?