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  1. IrishCorey

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    Wait.. was that game played?

    Surely, you're not claiming a game that you never played.... are you that sad?
     
  2. IrishCorey

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    I hope to God you're kidding. That's just the saddest damned thing that didn't involve clown porn I've ever seen.

    BTW, you can't just 'claim' the game.. it's officially declared a no contest.

    http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...daho-declared-no-contest-rescheduled-for-2017

    I'm sorry Dave, you were beaten at home by Georgia Southern not even 12 months ago. You don't get any free passes. No wink and a nod. No benefit of the doubt.
     
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    Corey..come on man.... you really think I am saying that the Idaho game should be "officially counted as a UF Win? Come on man....

    That said I am saying the perspective that Foley should have of Muschamp is counting that as a Gator win.

    Idaho is 1-8 ( 1-5 Sunbelt ) and ranked 97th in total defense.

    Ga. Southern by the way is 8-2 and 7-0 in the Sunbelt.

    The week after not playing Idaho a pumped up and confident Florida team opening the season smoked Eastern Michigan 65-0.

    So you perceive it any way you want but I don't think you share the same view of the matter as does Foley and me.
     
  4. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    No way can you compare a terrible Idaho program to the program that Ga.Southern has become. Gators just needed to show up and they would have beaten Idaho, even on a bad day.
     
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    Georgia Southern is no joke.

    Their last three games vs. major schools resulted in a win over Fla in the Swamp, a 1 point loss at NC State and a 4 point loss at Ga Tech.

    That's all in addition to their 7-0 record in the Sunbelt.

    They play at Navy this weekend...... look out Midshipmen!
     
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    Actually, Florida should be happy they didn't play Idaho. It helps their SOS. :wink:
     
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    Sid,

    I appreciate the thought but the SOS was only important in the good ole days of UF being in national contention.

    Heck.... these days we could just use the W.
     
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    It's starting to look very possible that the Gators, UGa and Tenn will tie for the SEC east. Nobody thinks Missouri can beat A&M, Tenn and Ark to finish the season. Tie breakers send the Gators to the SECCG. That's be coming back from the dead.
     
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    I agree Terry..... talking about the Walking Dead!

    I also agree that Mo. probably will not win 2 of those 3 to knock UF out.

    So it gets down to Auburn vs. Georgia.

    In Athens.... and Georgia gets Gurley back.

    I hope Corey is right in that the SEC West cannot be beaten by the East in such a game....

    :wink:
     
  10. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    I think Auburn is bound to be one mad team when they get to Athens...and that could easily turn into a Auburn win.
     
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    I hope you're right Terry.

    And another thought is that the Gators have to send the OBC home with a loss on Sat. in the Swamp for any of this to matter to Florida.

    Hopefully we take care of business and then get to sit and watch and hope for Ga. and Mo. losses.
     
  12. IrishCorey

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    Hold on there Terry and Dave,

    Dave, you are using the 2014 Georgia Southern record to validate their quality in 2013. That's almost as sad as you trying to claim a win for a game that was never played.

    Last year, Georgia Southern was 7-4.

    They lost to Wofford 30-20
    They lost to Samford 44-34
    They were pounded by Appalachian State 38-14
    They lost to Furman 16-14

    This is just pathetic, and now I see you are speaking for the Athletic Director, Foley? Oh please, do continue.
     
  13. Motorcity Gator

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    That's weak Corey.... that was next to the Missouri game this year as the most miserable coach-gettin-fired performance in Gator history.

    So for you UF beating what has evolved in to 1-8 Idaho in the opening game in the Swamp is quite a reach...... ok..... whatever you say.... hmmmmmm

    This is a ridiculous debate..... I'm arguing the obvious.

    I might add that you are using the Florida team in mid Nov. 2013 that was in total disarray due to major injuries on both offense and defense to evaluate an opening game healthy Florida team in 2014 vs. a real lousy opponent?

    "you are using the 2014 Georgia Southern record to validate their quality in 2013"

    Get real Corey.
     
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    What's weak is that you're trying to claim a win for a game that you didn't even play, nor will play for a few years. Then when you insinuate that the game was a 'gimme', I reminded you that under Muschamp, there are no gimmes.

    When I mentioned that you were beaten by Georgia Southern last year, you mentioned

    And that is true, THIS YEAR. Last year, they were a 4 loss team. You can look that up. I already gave you the teams they lost to and the scores.
    Just as I said, YOU USED THIS YEAR'S RECORD TRYING TO MAKE LAST YEAR'S LOSS SEEM SOMEHOW BETTER

    When you combine that with the claiming of a win for a game that won't be played, and top it off with the statement that 'you and Foley' agree on this, well dude that's pretty weak. That's the kinda fairy tale that even 3 year olds stop you and say 'Dude, that's ********.'

    I'd like to remind you that prior to Georgia shitting the bed against you guys, again..something they are known for under Richt, you are now talking about Florida the great... whereas just a few weeks ago, you were ready to throw in the towel on the whole thing.

    You guys are quite possibly the 2nd worst team to step foot in Bryant-Denny stadium this year, but I really do hope you guys win the SEC.
     
  15. Terry O'Keefe

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    Idaho was a gimmie and they would have won, even in the small pond Iadho sucks. Gators were bad to start the year for sure, but not that bad and that loss to Ga. Southern last year has no bearing on this years Gators and a really bad Idaho team.
     
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    Three year olds say, "Dude, that's ********"? :shock:
    :lol:
     
  17. IrishCorey

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    I would agree with you Terry 99% of the time, but not with the Muschamp Gators. Despite Dave's suggestion that the Gators came out smoking hot, they squeaked by Kentucky (and everyone said wow, Kentucky is good, but as the year played out, not so much). They were then destroyed by Alabama who literally could have made the score what they wanted against them.

    They followed that up with a 10-9 win over a hapless Vols team that was trying to hide it's only offensive weapon for another year in that game. LSU beat them while that team was still finding their feet and the Gators were absolutely slaughtered in a game in which their defense held Missou to almost nothing. How is that even possible? Because Muschamp, that's how.

    I'm sorry, I just don't buy into this thing that goes on with SEC team in which they beat someone and all of a sudden, they are good. Especially not when it comes to something like Georgia going all wet pampers against Florida, which is something they are known to do in quite breath taking fashion.

    Watching Dave over the years has been this journey in the evolution of watching many SEC fans, and the media that covers them. Almost nothing is based in reality. Their ethos changes with the wind. The worst thing is, they play some damned fine football and it is so hard to enjoy because of the nonsense and hyperbole. One year the argument is bowl record. The other year, it's just win the big game that's all that counts. Each and every year we have to hear about how it's top to bottom better when that is only ever been true for one division (or a fraction of it) in almost every year.

    Just stop for a moment and quantify what we're talking about here. He's trying to claim a W for a game that wasn't played, and you're defending him. Seriously.. ;)
     
  18. Motorcity Gator

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    Corey I find it curious that you stake your reputation for knowledge of football on the fact that a healthy Florida team full of piss and vinegar wouldn't have found a way to beat an Idaho team that turns out to be one of the worst teams in the country and most certainly wasn't any different on the night they played Florida.

    And contrary to your continued stance that I am calling for some kind of official stamp on what should have been a Gator victory if the game were to have been played I am just saying that with Foley I am certain that game is perceived as another one in the win column.

    So you would have put up your hard earned money it seems on Idaho straight up to win that game. :lol:
     
  19. Terry O'Keefe

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    Well those games were all against genuine Div 1 teams. Heck even that piss poor Vol team beat Utah State, Ark State and Chattanooga. Kentucky whupped up on all it's cream puffs as well, and Idaho was the worst than any of the creampuffs that the Vols and Kentucky played this year.

    The Vols cream puff opponents are a combined 20-9 this year and they all could have beaten Idaho on a bad day.

    I can't believe you're making a case that the bottom of the Sun Belt conference would have given any SEC team a game, other than Vandy of course.

    Edit: But of course the Gators can't claim a victory over a team they didn't play, but we are talking what if's of course.
     
  20. IrishCorey

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    Louisiana Monroe is 2-3 in the Sunbelt, 3-6 overall.

    They beat Arkansas in 2012.
    They beat a Nick Saban coached Alabama team in 2007.

    There aren't many SunBelt upsets of the SEC (I think only 7 in total) but they do happen when the game gets played. Now we're talking about the Cybill of the SEC? Anything is possible. Likely? No.. but we can't say we 'know' anything.