Not happy enough with the W, I guess. This only goes to prove how much Kiffin is irritating Gator nation and it seems to be carrying over to their coach too. What a whine-bag!! You just won a game by 10 points and you're making excuses about your players having the flu and that the other team didn't want to win!!! Are you serious??? That is actually coming from a coach? I can see that as fan drivel but from a coach? That's ridiculous. As a certain poster has been known to say about his program's resurgence, it seems I hear a train coming. It's the Lane Train. To truly appreciate the rebuilding effort this staff is doing on Rocky Top, consider that after a humiliating defeat at the hands of UCLA, Tennessee received 3 commitments the very next day. Including a commitment from a 5* ATH who had to see that Tennessee had no one to throw the football to him as he is projected at WR. It just doesn't make sense but neither did landing the #1 recruit in the nation after only 3 months on the job. Still, I'm concerned about Tennessee's QB prospects going forward. In order to truly resurrect the program they need someone who can complete a downfield pass. I'm not sure if you guys heard it but Gary Daniels made the comment that Tennessee's passing game was so vanilla in the Florida game that they could have brought in a high school QB to run those plays. The fact that Tennessee was still able to generate over 100 yards on the ground in spite of this is amazing. It speaks to the effort of the Tennessee O-Line and would be my greatest concern if I was a Gator fan. Alabama, for one, has the ability to throw deep and run the ball effectively. They could present real problems for the Gators. Tennessee has a commit from QB Tyler Bray from California but I'm not convinced he'll be the answer although he has been a fast riser in recruiting circles. I could still see another top QB decommitting from another school and coming to Tennessee. We'll see how it plays out but the prospect of playing with several blue chip WRs has to be appealing especially combined with the opportunity to play from day 1. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
I think that was a given since his first press conference. We'll have to see if the wins will eventually come and back up all of this talk.
Corey and AQUILA, nonsense to your last posts about Meyer's comment after the game. All he did was explain why the Gators didn't open up their offense and he told the truth. I think it was pretty obvious that Tennessee ran the ball, played good defense and tried to shorten the game. I have no problem with that strategy, but it's hardly damning to Florida under the circumstances that the Gators didn't open up their offense. Also Corey, as far as Classy, Meyer had made no comments after being falsely accused of cheating etc., he did tell the truth after the game about the way Tennessee was playing the game. Meyer is no saint, but he's a damn good football coach who doesn't get in the kind of pi$$*** contests and after the trash talking coming his way I hardly think your comment is accurate. As to fearing Kiffin in the future that remains to be seen. He didn't take on just the Gators but Alabama, Georgia and S. Carolina among others. If he backs up his brashness fine, then he may be around a long time, if not then ?????.
I heard today that the SEC commissioner has talked to both Kiffin and Meyer and told them to tone it down. I thought a couple of Meyer's comments were unnecessary. It sounded to me like he was a) apologizing for not scoring more points with his comments about players having the flu, and b) taking an overt shot at Tennessee by saying that he thought they weren't playing to win. I'm sure FL fans don't perceive those comments the same way non-fans do, but they were just plain unnecessary coming from the coach who had won the game. I'm a supporter of Meyer, but any coach, including Charlie Weis, who makes comments like that following a victory, deserves whatever criticism he receives.
Sid, I read the same thing about the SEC Commissioner calling the two coaches and that's fine by me. I agree with you in theory, however there was a lot of stuff sent Meyer's way by Kiffin and I can't criticize my coach to much for making one response, that by the way looked true to me. But I hope it's over. Now let's see how things play out with Tennessee over the next few weeks with Alabama, Georgia and S. Carolina and if there's any more controversy.
Hogwash. Was Charleston Southern still trying to win the game? Troy? He was making excuses as to why that game wasn't a world class pounding the way the experts said it would be, and he certainly did nothing to convince anyone different. The facts are the facts. Kiffin so much as admitted as much. Without having the talent to beat Florida, he single handedly put Tennessee in the headlines and got under the skin of Urban Meyer. If St Urban were the class act, he would have just kept on walking or even better... rip anyone who insisted that they weren't trying hard. Instead, he gave a lame excuse about sitting on it...as if by design. If he could have beaten Kiffin by 100, he would have done it.
If Kiffin gets Tenn back to the UF level like they were back in the 90's with Fulmer going against Spurrier. Back then Gator fans loved Spurrier who was hated by the rest of the SEC for some of the comments that he made, esp about Tenn. Kiffin seems ready to become the Spurrier of this generation, of course it won't work unless he can back it up like SOS did on the field. Personally since I wasn't a fan of any SEC team that SOS targeted his barbs at, I kinda of liked most if not all of his quips...but I understand why he wasn't popular with most SEC fans. Sort of like ND fans loved Holtz, but in general other fans really didn't like him and focused a lot on some of the stuff he would say. It was even that way when he was back at Arkansas and Texas fans hated Holtz personally more than they hated Arkansas. :roll: :roll:
Funny things about so called facts Corey, not all people see facts the same way. You are entitled to your opinion, and that's all your so called facts are, your opinion. However I disagree but will not call mine facts, just that it's the way I see things. And comparing the Charleston Southern or Troy game to the Tennessee game is like comparing apples to oranges. Tennessee had the horses to win the game, it was an SEC game and we took what we were given and were not in any danger of losing the game. That's my opinion. Terry, I agree with what you are saying. The Gators are the power in the SEC right now and we will get a lot of what you describe. That's fine with me as I would rather be in our position than any other team in the SEC.
I can't imagine Kiffin with no controversy.....especially when it is Bama week vs. Saban. This guy has a significantly losing record as a head coach with the potential to lose quite a few more this year before it's over. Could be much ado about nothing in the long run.
I want to add that I like Lane Kiffin coaching Tenn. It certainly makes for interesting games for me other than the ones the Gators play. You do have to wonder just what will be said the weeks of the Tenn-Ala and Tenn-SC games. The Ole Ball Coach usually has a long memory and I can't imagine Saban backing down from a challenge either.
i'm waiting for mcg to describe the UF/UK game as another "tough" SEC road game inspite of 22 straight over UK with the last 15 games being 28 point wins on the average for the Gators. :roll:
They didn't have the horses to beat UCLA. They fired Fulmer for a reason Bill. They have some issues that need to be addressed and it appears that Kiffin is addressing them. You can call them opinions, facts or whatever you want to call them. The fact of the matter is that post-game, Meyer could have taken the high road and given the traditional coach speak answer about a tough opponent blah blah blah. Instead, he chose to say that Tennessee wasn't trying to win the game. That's a rather serious accusation, especially when (as Kiffin pointed out) by keeping it on the ground UT moved the ball down and scored. That's their best method of attack. Pure speculation on my part here but I think Meyer thought he'd be cute and saw a chance to get a dig in on Kiffin and UT. Kiffin topped him again. Meyer has the better football team, but he doesn't appear equipped to handle the barb trading with Kiffin. He should just let the scoreboard do the talking and let that stand on it's own. Instead, he walked right into another one. Kiffin's trolling and Meyer keeps biting. Don't feed the troll and he goes away or gets exposed.
Meyer reminds me a lot of Stoops in the way he approaches the media and Kiffin of course reminds me a lot of Spurrier. Stoops would have said something like what Meyer said. Corey sounds like you would like the Mack Brown post game.
Corey, it will never cease to amaze me how you can always turn a situation with the Gators into always a negative thing with the Gators. Again, if you think Kiffin got the best of Meyer I certainly won't be able to persuade you. It amazes me though that with all the things Kiffin has said you pick one thing Meyer says, the only thing by the way, and turn it negative. I shouldn't be surprised though. Terry, sorry but I do not agree that Kiffin is like Spurrier.
Before I ever read any quote or any news article on the game that is precisely the opinion I had formed watching the game in person. No urgency....no real threat ultimately to UF winning. The only anxiety I felt was at the end when the official's calls started to look one-sided and that always makes me nervous in the SEC when UF is involved. On Kiffin vs. Spurrier.....LK has a lot...I mean a TON of winning to do before we can make that comparison.
Bill I can understand why you Gators can't see or don't like the comparission but SOS made quite a few statements over the years that were perceived as arrogant and you know he was not popular with other SEC coaches or fans. Of course in SOS case he won a lot of games so he was backing up his quips on the field with big wins..lots of them. Right now Kiffin is making the statements but not backing them up, time will tell if he can deliver the goods and backup his brashness. BTW, I know Spurrier won right away when he came to UF. What kind of team did he inherit? I know when Mack came to Texas a lot of people thought it'd take him a couple of years to start winning but he won 9 games his first year and has never won fewer than 9 games. So either he had more talent than people thought or he was a better coach than people gave him credit.
Terry, I am well aware that most other SEC fans did not like Spurrier and that he was percieved as arrogant, however none of what you say is the reason I say Spurrier was not like Kiffin. One incident is the reason I say there is no comparison and that is when Kiffen stood in front of a bunch of boosters and called Meyer a cheater. That was loud and clear and he even went on to explain how Meyer cheated by calling a recruit, that it was against NCAA rules. Turns out he was wrong and had to apologize, he then insisted he was firing up the base. Nonsense, he didn't understand the rules and has never been able to bring himself to admit it. Whether you or anyone else want to believe it or not, Spurrier would never strand in front of several thousand people and call another coach a cheater. That pretty well sums up why I say Spurrier and Kiffin are not alike. I think it's pretty much time for me to drop my conversation here. For years I lived with the knowledge that most Tennessee fans couldn't stand Spurrier, fair enough. Now I think that I've made clear enough how I feel about Kiffin so it's time for me to drop it. What I would say that in time I may feel different but not now.
Bill, Listening to Finebaum earlier this week, every respected 'voice of southern football' Brando, Barnhart et all were all repeating the same things I am saying here. Kiffin is trolling him and Meyer keeps biting. It's far from me... but if that fits your conspiracy theory then go right ahead. I'm not endorsing what Kiffin is doing. I'm just amazed that a coach who has accomplished so much, and proved to be so savvy in the past, would continue to fall for such a cheap tactic.
You are amazing Corey, Meyer makes one comment this Sat after many months and he is falling for the bait. Ok, have it your way. Here's another view. One Flu Over The Cuckoo's nest.