I don't love either one, I'm just ranking credibility and honesty. Doyel doesn't rank far from the bottom. Finebum is below him. :wink:
Don't let the facts hit ya where the good lord split ya. Finebaum's Wiki Some excerpts: -Paul Finebaum arrived in Birmingham in 1980 from the Shreveport Journal and became a columnist and investigative reporter for the Birmingham Post-Herald. Finebaum's work has earned him over 250 national, regional and area sports writing awards, including his investigative stories on the recruitment of Alabama basketball player Buck Johnson. -He also in 1993 broke the story of Antonio Langham, a University of Alabama football player who signed a contract with a sports agent while playing for the school, which led to NCAA probation for the school. -He was also first to report the firing of Auburn University coach Terry Bowden in 1998. -In 2002, Paul was named by The Tennessean in Nashville as one of the Southeastern Conference's Top Power Brokers. -The Paul Finebaum Radio Network, comprising Finebaum, Network Director Pat Smith, Newsman Neal Vickers, Associate Producer Kerry Adams and webmaster Dave Sibley was named in 2004 by Sports Illustrated as one of the top 12 sports radio shows in the United States. -In 2008, Columbia University named Finebaum's Show as one of the winners of its annual 'Let's Do it Better! Workshop on Journalism, Race and Ethnicity. Sponsored by the Ford Foundation, the award singles out newspaper, broadcast and web reporting that fosters coherent, authentic coverage of race reporting. Finebaum was selected for providing a strong and sometimes controversial view on racial issues in sports through his multi-media contributions that include the “Paul Finebaum Radio Network,” -In particular, Columbia cited a poignant show on the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday - which highlighted the slain Civil Rights leaders still strong connections with today's sports stars - was among those submitted to the panel selecting the awards. Among Finebaum's written works noted included a column in the Mobile Press-Register on the first two black coaches in the bowl, the admission of NBA star that he was gay, a column on the University of Alabama snubbing of Sylvester Croom to be the first black football head coach in the SEC and a tribute to the late Grambling coach Eddie Robinson. -In July 2009, The Orlando Sentinel[3] named Finebaum as one of the SEC's 10 most powerful people.
Big deal Corey, I clearly said that he may or may not have been what you think and that article says. However with the Meyer story and his cheap reactions afterward leads me to believe a) He's lost it b) He's gotten in over his head and is determined to lie his way out of it. Whatever his credibility has taken a major hit.
LOL do you realize that you were just 1 story of the week. Its only an issue to you. The much longer term story, if you want to talk about coaches in trouble, would be the situation with Richt at Georgia. He's not saying Richt is done, but he is saying he's on thinner ice than people realize and he's not sure he can get to the shallow end of the pond (thicker ice) in time to save his job.
Give it a rest Corey. Don't give me the line that's it's only an issue with me. I simply said on the other topic that maybe people like Finebum would quit writing now that Meyer was leaving Florida for Notre Dame. You decided to start defending him. I simply started a new topic to get it off the Notre Dame topic. But since you wanted to defend him I posted his article and three others that felt like enough was enough. Since then you have posted post after post on what a wonderful powerful person he is. I don't buy it, you can post it as many times as you want, I think he's really damaged his credibility. You are not going to change my mind and I could care less if you think he's so great. I don't. What he says about Richt has no bearing with me for a couple of reasons. First I don't care about Richt and Georgia, they can do what they want. Second, at this point I don't believe a #@$!@#$ thing that Finebum says. Listen to and read him all you want he doesn't matter to me and I will repeat that in my opinion he's a hack.
I defended what he was saying because he is right.. Is Urban staying, is Urban going.. who knows? That was never really the point of the article. He isn't going to ND we know that..but that wasn't the issue.. The smart play for Urban is to leave now. It gets no better than this more than likely...add in a cannibalistic, bat **** crazy fan base and you gotta recipe for disaster. I think it's funny... You are running down this guy you literally never listen to or read his work... Its like listening to Stevie Wonder talk about the color wheel.
Hey Corey, you used the Orlando Sentinel as a reference as to how great Finebum is, well here's an article from the number sports writer of the Orlando Sentinel that might give you some idea as to where Finebum stands with them now. Never mind the reference to the Bear, notice the shrillness in the tone of dear old Finebum. Like I said his article about Meyer has cost him a ton of credibility. Finebum Responds To Bianchi By the way, let me ask you a question, how can Finebum be one of the 10 most influential people in the SEC when he can't even get access to the University Of Florida, who I think by any measure now carries a lot of weight in the SEC? Well I'm off to bowling to continue my comeback. :lol: :lol:
I agree with Finebaum! That guys entire argument is speculative at best, bat **** crazy at worst... Finebaum will step foot on your campus again in your lifetime. You can count on it. You guys don't even see how nuts you are.. Hey Stevie, show me the red section on the wheel? Like the SEC, the red one is on top with the orange up under it looking to the top.
Dang Corey I'm shocked you agree with Finebum, absolutely shocked. Anyone that doesn't agree with you and your hero is bat **** crazy. That certainly lays the fats on the line doesn't it. No question the Gators aren't on top this year, you would have to be an idiot to say that after Bama just beat us. However if you look at the Gators record in the SEC in the 90's and 2000's none is better. We have more SEC Championships and more NC's than any other team. So if in your mind because we lost this year we are looking up that's fine, I could have told you that you would make that claim before you ever did. Let me know when he shows up on the Gator campus as you predict. By the way, my bowling game seems to be coming back.
Funny thing about your gross generalizations Bill.. Urban is a guy I'd probably sit down and hang out with.. Finebaum is not. Not much of a hero... but that doesn't make him wrong either.
Florida has won three national titles and LSU has won two since Bama won their last one. And they haven't won this one yet. I am not selling Texas short because of the troubles Bama had at times this year.....including Tenn and Auburn. Saban has proved ( vs Fla ) that he can get his team jacked but so has Brown ( USC ) and I think Texas may get a dose of disrespect because of the Nebraska close call. I am not making excuses but UF's performance was not up to speed in the SECCG for unknown reasons. If the Fla defense had played at such a low intensity level vs. Oklahoma the Sooners would have scored 50 points last Jan. and it's the same players.....same coaches! I will pull for the SEC to win another one but Bama is no shoo in imho.
Ok, you accuse me of generalizations, then what are you statements about Gator fans going batshit and then this from another one of your posts. Then you knock the three articles I posted and dismiss the writers as somehow not being worthy. Let's see Doyel writes on a national sports site, CBS Sportsline. You dismiss him because of an article he wrote praising the Gators. You obviously missed many of his others, including the couple he wrote about Tebow's concussion, where he knocked the gators. Selective on your part for sure, and dismissing a guy who when he writes gets a national audience and telling me how wonderful a guy is who has mostly an Alabama audience shows a bias on your part. Bianchi, he is the lead sportswriter for the Orlando Sentinel and appears on Sunshine Network, Fox Sports South and radio all over Florida. I don't think he has as big of an audience as Finebaum but in Florida he's better known and hardly a lightweight. The guy from Bleacher, who cares about his credentials, read the article again and you see he quotes Buddy Martin then adds his comments. Buddy Martin has been a sportswriter in Florida for years, owned his own newspapers and radio stations where he hosted Sports talk, worked in Denver where I am not sure what he did but he did arrange golf tournaments among other things. He has written a half dozen or more books about mostly Gators. He is now one of the main players on GatorCountry. He is also my age and there is no way he is any less knowledgeable or influential than Finebaum. In fact Buddy and Finebaum were pretty close over the years but when Buddy had to audacity to take issue with Finebaum's article about Meyer Finebaum now refers to him as a former friend. Geez, I guess that's what happens when someone takes issue with your idol, he marks them off. In summary, there is now way Finebaum is no more of a factor than those three guys, and probably not as influential as they are together. I'm in Raleigh visiting my son and his family, having a great time. I hope you are enjoying this Christmas season.
Hey Corey, let me paraphrase something you said. Even though I've had to live with your anti Gator Bias ever since I've been on the internet You are one person I would like to sit down to dinner and conversation with. Have a great holiday season.
Bill, if Corey had stated that and that alone, I would have been the first to speak out and tell him that was not appropriate. However, he did start out with saying something to the effect of: It is hard to come down on someone that equated themselves with you.
Guess he's generalizing about himself Tom. Relax, I'm not offended, I don't think Corey is offended by me. I would be very surprised if he is and all he has to do is say so.
Why would that be? That's one of the best defenses in the land. I'm sure TX will watch the tape on those blowout wins against AU, LSU and Tenn, and have a hard time wagging their tail in admiration also.
AJ, no doubt that Nebraska has one of the best defenses in the land, but I do believe that most people expected Texas would win easier than they did. I have to admit to feeling that way. Tom, I only meant that I don't think Corey and I are just mostly jesting, not so much serious. Serious only in my opinion of Finebum.
Tom, upon re-evaluation of yours' and Corey's batshit fans comments, the it takes one to know one comment is probably most approriate. However it is still generalization. :wink: Would you evaluate the Tennessee fans as batshit crazy? :twisted:
My only comment was to quote you and Corey. Don't drag Tennessee into this. We have rabid fans but at least at this point, not batshit crazy. We don't have fans that are complaining while we win championships! If I were commenting on the Florida fans that were complaining about their own program while enjoying the success that is Florida, batshit crazy may not be the term I would use. Spoiled rotten immature babies comes to mind though.