No, I'll always remember a brilliant campaign which forfeited Cal. to Gore while winning critical states like W. Va and Gore's home state of Tenn. to win the electoral race. I also remember all the ******** claims by the Dems about the Fla. vote and their vow to make sure in 04 that there would be no more voter fraud. Thanks to the increased scruteny W won Fla. by over 100,000 votes. Of course the networks didn't announce a bogus result while the polls were still open in the more conservative western part of the state in 04. Oh, and what was the Dems response in 04? The election in Ohio was tainted. The assholes never lose it's always stolen.
Alright Gipper....we have to go back to 1876 to find a comparable election? You state that Clinton was in the same boat? Sorry.....not true.
I said that Clinton didn't win the popular vote. http://www.uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/national.php?f=0&year=1996 He won less than 50%. You have another link with PARTIAL results to show differently? In fact Obama is the first Dem to win the White House with more than 50% of the vote since one time president Carter.
Come on Gipper....Clinton bested his nearest competitor Dole by more than 8 million popular votes and you had said he didn't win the popular vote. By contrast in two elections combined Bush won by only 2.5 million total votes. In Clinton's two elections he won by 14 million popular votes combined!
Good point on Perot. He probably cost Sr. the election in '92. Then again...I'm pretty certain Nader cost Gore the election in 2000.
....about the state of Tennessee voting Republican in 6 out of the last 8 elections. I would venture if Gore wasn't on the ticket in '92 and '96 it would be 8 of 8 for the GOP.
Are you saying that Clinton only carried Tenn because of Gore but Gore couldn't carry it for himself?
That's about what I am saying. I think Gore's negative association with Clinton didn't become a reality until Clinton had been dragged through the mud by his GOP enemies in the late 90s. Once that association took hold however Gore was then unable to carry Tenn. The single reason W eeked out his election deciding win over Gore in Florida was because of the Tripp/Starr/Lewinsky mess.
Is this like Clue? OK, OK....I get it. It's my turn..... Linda Tripp did it in the Oval Office with a Macanudo! Do I win? :lol: Heaven forbid the First Felon should be responsible for the consequences of his own indiscretions and/or piss poor judgement.
He is also responsible for Obama getting elected instead of Hillary and as I said for Gore not carrying Tenn or Florida. Linda Tripped him up with a little help from Rove, Hyde and other GOP enemies who saw a juicy opportunity and took advantage. Clinton's bad to be sure.
There were very few men in America who, deep down, blamed Clinton for succumbing to a young girl flashing a thong strap given what he was used to . It was reckless in the context of his office though and potentially could have led to blackmail or worse. What pissed American men off was the sniveling way he tried to quantify it and weasel out of it. If he had admitted to it and apologised it would have been quickly forgotten. When he then chose to lie under oath, he memorialized his stupidity. It's rarely the crime as much as the cover up.
Good points George but I wonder if he was under pressure from the party not to come clean or if he hadn't shared it with anyone as a married man I can definitely see why he didn't just come out with it....especially when he knew the whole pursuit of it was political in nature more than anything else. I think some people have to be pretty damned naive to think this was more about morals than it was about winners and losers in politics. But Rove, Hyde and company knew they could make it about morals with a certain group of voters that leaned to the right but voted Clinton into office in the two previous elections. By bringing down Clinton they ensured their man would be the next president albeit barely.
Lest we forget, Clinton had been sued in a sexual harassment suit. He lied under oath in a deposition in that suit. The typical liberal excuse was "it was just sex, everyone lies about sex." He lied under oath in a lawsuit. Whether it was a rape case, sexual harassment case or a paternaty suit, lying under oath is a felony. It's the reason why he lost his license to practice law. He literally plea bargained his way out of office.
Gipper, Clinton obviously made some bad choices. Were those choices compounded exponentially by his political enemies.....absolutely. I would venture that were it not for his party's political defeat in 2000 that we would no longer even be talking about it. There is maybe 15% of Americans who are so righteous themselves as to to be totally outraged by his behavior. The rest of you are laughable by your holier than thou analysis. It's transparently political.