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  1. George Krebs

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  2. Stu Ryckman

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    We just got our COVID boosters.
     
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  3. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    I listen to a podcast called SciFriday and it as it's name suggests is all about various scientific things, including medicine of course. They were talking about the booster and how some are saying it's proof that the vaccine doesn't work. They reviewed the history of vaccines and how many vaccines require periodic boosters and that is not a reflection that the vaccine doesn't work but that it's effect wanes over time.

    I originally got Moderna and I don't think they are doing the booster on that just yet. Pfizer is rolling out now, I assume Stu got the Pfizer vaccine. Not sure when Moderna is due out, I do plan to get it and technically if you go on the 8 months since last shot, it's mid-October when I would be due.
     
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  4. gipper

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  5. Scott88

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    Just curious if anyone has seen info: Is the booster just the same original shot or something different?
     
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    I'm pretty sure it's the same shot. As said above, so far only Pfizer has approval for the boosters but Moderna is probably due for approval shortly.
     
  7. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    I saw where Fauci said that if was ok to get the Flu shot and your 3rd Covid shot on the same day. Just get them in different arms. That's a change earlier in the year you weren't supposed to have had any other vaccination within 2 weeks of getting your Covid vaccine shot.
     
  8. Scott88

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    I listen to that glory hound less than I do Biden...
     
  9. Terry O'Keefe

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    Some good news on the treatment of Covid. Vaccine is great, but it sure would be great if there emerges a treatment regimen that has an impact on the disease. This seems to be a big step in the right direction. If it is, I wonder if anti-vaxers will accept it.

    Merck says COVID pill prevented 50% of deaths in key trial
     
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    Mary and I got our boosters today. Have a hunch this won't be our last Covid shots.
     
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  11. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    I saw some place where Moderna ( I think) was working of a Flu/Covid mRNA formula that we'd take annually.
     
  12. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    I see where Golden State Warriors player Andrew Wiggins agreed to get vaccinated. He chose the J&J vaccination probably because it was only 1 shot. I thought it interesting that economics was the reason he decided to get the shot, he talked about now was the time for him to build wealth for his family and he couldn't just quit the NBA. He didn't talk about immediate side effects worrying him, said he had some but basically felt fine. What he's worried about is the health consequences 10 or 20 years down the road.

    This is the same reason one of my close friends gives, she's not sure what will happen to her body 10 or 20 years down the road if she takes the vaccine. To me of course it makes no sense, vaccines have been around for over 200 years (small pox) and to my knowledge there have been no side effects that don't show up relatively soon after the injection, not 10 or 20 years down the road.

    I do wonder if those who are refusing this vaccine will be refusing vaccines in the future and will they also refuse vaccines for their children?
     
  13. Scott88

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    Terry,

    mRNA is the difference.
    Most of your vaccines in the past did not use this technology.
    If you think carefully about it, there's a lot of room for screwing around with genetics to go wrong.
    Not saying the fear in this case is accurate, but it's not hard to understand this one is different and leaves a lot of room for wild speculation to take hold.
     
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    Certainly that is something that those who fear long term damage that they won't know about for 10 or 20 years think about, probably Wiggins does but he never said that specifically. But the Science doesn't support that possibility. Also mRNA technology was developed with Covid, I think the technology has been around for

    Will an mRNA vaccine alter my DNA?

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    Sorry, I misspoke.
    mRNA isn't new per say... I meant new as a vaccine.
    10 years is not that long when you're talking about jacking with genetic code.
    I got the jab, but I sure wasn't first in line.
    If I grow an extra eye out of my forehead, I'm gonna drive down to Houston to see Terry and say "SEE?!?!?!"

    (see what I did there? ;) )
     
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  16. Stu Ryckman

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  18. Terry O'Keefe

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    Good article Stu, unfortunately those who fear the "long term" side effects of the vaccine ignore those explanations and focus on the it was developed too fast (in their opinion) and we don't know what will happen in 10 to 20 years.

    I wonder how many of them if they are diagnosed with cancer will reject new treatments that are developed as being developed too fast and if they work will there be long term side effects.
     
  19. WSU1996kesley

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    A full accounting of the risks and benefits, especially an individual's specific risks and benefits, should always be taken into account when considering a treatment plan. Claiming that there is only one correct answer universally applied isn't usually the result of reasoned thought.
     
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    A town in Canada….

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