Why don't you post this crap in the vote counting and post coronavirus information in this topic please!
Maybe so, Dave, but whine and complain about that in other topics. If you have information about Corona Virus, cures, vaccines, etc post it here. If you just want to complain about Trump post it somewhere else. I'm going to start deleting your posts if they are off the topic.
Terry, nice requests fall on deaf ears with MCG. If you agree I will delete his last two posts on this topic. Strange isn't it how MCG told all of us that he was done with us. That lasted only a few days and he is back spewing his hate.
Bill, he said he was leaving on six occasions. From a BBC article about why people troll on the internet. The subject seems pertinent here:
Agree Bobda, but good news is that Terry and I have the ability to delete and will use it. Up to three on this topic.
Pfizer has completed Phase 3 trials with 95% efficacy and will be applying to the FDA for emergency use with in days. Moderna is bound to be close as well. Maybe soon they'll start vaccinating. I don't know if dentists and dental personnel will be on the early list though.
Kes and I talked about this... 95% effective for a cold/flu virus would be unprecedented, which leads to one of two conclusions: 1) they are greatly exaggerating. 2) they've had this capability, but have sandbagged it down so folks still "need" them. Neither one is good.
Not so sure, Scott...could be so but I have read that the COVID virus does not mutate as much as the influenza viruses do, and those mutations are the main reason that the flu vaccine has a lower efficiency...so maybe the COVID vaccine could indeed be more effective than the flu shots.
That may be true Stu... so far. I guess the question is: will it remain so, and for how long? Viruses always mutate, that's how they "survive"...
Another break through in testing. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has cleared the first Covid-19 test that people can take at home by themselves and get results without the help of a lab, a long-awaited step. The single-use, disposable test from Lucira Health Inc. uses nasal swabs and can be self-administered by anyone with a doctor’s prescription ages 14 years or older. The test searches for the genetic material of the new coronavirus and can give results in up to 30 minutes, the company said. Some Covid-19 tests have been previously authorized for at-home collection, but Lucira’s is the first that can be fully self-performed and provide results at home minutes later. FDA Clears First Covid-19 Test Performed Fully at Home
I guess the new test is a benefit for primary care doctors. Now patients can call about possible symptoms, get a prescription and with 50 dollars get tested without having to go to the doctor's office or a clinic.
NYC shutting down schools...a NYT op ed says Trump was right and the Democrat's were wrong. I'm not a Times subscriber so I don't know the political leanings of the author, but in General the NYT has been extremely anti-Trump. An op-ed from The New York Times offered a stunning admission Wednesday about President Trump's strong stance on keeping schools open during the coronavirus pandemic. Hours after it was announced that New York City schools would be shutting down amid nationwide spikes in coronavirus cases, Times opinion columnist Nicholas Kristof wrote a piece titled, "When Trump Was Right and Many Democrats Wrong." "Some things are true even though President Trump says them," Kristof began. "Trump has been demanding for months that schools reopen, and on that he seems to have been largely right. Schools, especially elementary schools, do not appear to have been major sources of coronavirus transmission, and remote learning is proving to be a catastrophe for many low-income children." "Yet America is shutting schools — New York City announced Wednesday that it was closing schools in the nation’s largest school district — even as it allows businesses like restaurants and bars to operate. What are our priorities?" Kristof asked, later insisting shutting down schools "should be the last resort. New York Times op-ed admits 'Trump was right,' Democrats 'wrong,' about keeping schools open
My wife just got off the phone with a 40 year old woman ( my wife is an RN case manager ) and this lady was in the hospital here in Florida laying on her stomach for 2 1/2 weeks not able to breathe and afraid she was dying. She was lying in an all Covid ward where people were crying out that they couldn't breathe and didn't want to die.... etc. etc. Just the chance that could happen to any of us is terrifying to me..... and although the lady didn't die who in hell wants to go through such a thing?
Terry, Scott, Stu: Interesting article how the Covid vaccines differ from traditional vaccines: What Makes the Pfizer and Moderna Vaccines So Promising
As well it should. While many have mild to no symptoms when you get the full monty it's miserable. A poster on NDNation gave this account. I just completed nearly 2 weeks of hell fighting this virus(symptoms appeared on election day). I experienced fever, cough, chills, no taste/smell etc. but what was by far the worst was the chest congestion. Waking up at 2 or 3am most nights for a 5-10 minute non-stop coughing fit was the most painful and depressing part of it. Symptoms finally improved days 10-14 and I live alone so I was able to isolate myself away from everyone. ND/Clemson was the only bright spot during this time. This was probably the sickest I've been as an adult. By the end of it I lost 13 pounds. Be safe out there everyone.
Bill that was not me, it was somebody who posted his experience on a ND board. Thankfully to this point I haven't had it, or if I have I'm one of those who had no symptoms.
Sharing another post from NDNation. This guy is in the financial services industry and he posted this after a teleconference with a BioTech Analyst his firm was having. ______________________________ Anyway, they have some interesting thoughts. These are people working directly with the different political parties, companies involved in this treatment, and have access to all of the data. Working off of several pages of notes, so bear with me. Covid 19 thoughts: - Light at the end of the tunnel is getting closer and brighter, but still looking at end of 2021/beginning of 2022 before we get to "normal." Masks through the summer at least, if not longer. - Went from 0 covid tests to over 2 million per day in only 6 months. Now a 20 billion dollar business. - Corona virus' aren't going anywhere, and those business' are likely here to stay (and grow) moving forward. - Most of the current mortality issues are at nursing/LTC facilities. Mortality numbers are driving down and will continue to do so, so long as hospitals don't get overrun. - Might see more shutdown coming after next 8 weeks. Thanksgiving is a major possible event. - Treatment for virus has evolved considerably and the issue now is simply one of getting to scale. We would need over 100% of the world's current biotech capabilities to develop the treatments (without vaccine) to get to scale, so that's not happening any time soon. Vaccine information: - Data was much, much better than expected (We all knew this, but it's helpful to have some expert opinions backing that up). No severe infections for the vaccine control group. - Need 2 doses of both of these vaccines, so whenever you hear the total numbers of available vaccines, always divide that by 2 and that will tell you how many are actually available. - 80 million doses available by December, 1-2 billion doses available in 2021. - Vast majority of doses are going to US, but younger/healthy people likely not getting vaccinated until Q3 or Q4 in 2021. - There is public mistrust of the vaccine--they think that a celebrity (Biden and/or Fauci) will need to get on TV and publicly take the vaccine. - High success numbers of vaccine have already helped build confidence, but a ways to go. Election: - Seen as a win for health care stocks; progressive health care agenda "rejected" by electorate. Moderate president, likely Republican Senate, split house = less chance of significantly progressive platforms of medicare for all, significant drug regulations, etc. - Thought from Biden camp is that if they try and push the progressive health care agenda it will likely result in many more lost seats in the 2022 election. - Very unlikely that Biden will damage the health care industry during the midst of a pandemic. - They do likely see something like a significant change in out of pocket costs for seniors in drug pricing becoming a thing, as a compromise issue. Major changes they see: - Change to the process--right now, mainly reactive and that has led to issues, specifically acute issues with senior health. Moving more towards a preventative care with the government as the biggest payor in getting people to treat issues before they become significant. - Covid 19 has accelerated this process by 3-5 years; they were already working on it with medicare but the innovations of treatment because of this virus have accelerated it. - they don't see major changes to the ACA coming from the Supreme Court case.