Trump, Melania, campaign manager Stepien, KellyAnne Conway, three Senators and members of the White House press corps all diagnosed with Covid. Regardless of how they all do..... and we all hope for a speedy recovery for all of them.... you have to wonder about the impact on the 30% of the U.S. population who have refused to believe that Covid-19 is a real and serious threat rather just fake news.... a hoax.... a democratic sabotage etc. etc. On Facebook or otherwise from that group it's been nothing but crickets. And add Chris Christie to the list of Covid positives.
Hopefully Trump makes a full recovery from Covid-19 that has him at Walter Reed right now. He certainly has the best chance at it..... with first signs of mild symptoms garnering him an experimental drug and then being whisked off by helicopter to the hospital to begin remdesivir immediately early on in his treatment with supplemental oxygen close at hand if he were to need it. When assessing the seriousness of the virus the rest of us who could become symptomatic need to realize that we have to be half dead at home hacking and gasping before we get admitted to a hospital and then benefit from getting a drug like remdesivir if we're lucky. ( I notice hydroxychoriquine seems to be a dead issue by the way.) So the bottom line for the rest of us..... no matter what Trump may say after his experience about how he licked it.....how he tamed the virus etc. etc......is don't get it unless you have access to the kind of care he is receiving. I don't know about you but to me in his videos he looks very ill.... and for average citizens at home who are that sick Covid-19 is extremely serious.
Actually because we "flattened the curve" the original plan as mapped out by our scientists, there is plenty of hospital beds available for those needing hospitalization. Which leads me to wonder why when the possibility of our hospitals being overwhelmed by the virus was the threat, Americans "took the virus lightly." Shutting the border, instituting quarantines, trying to keep the hospital capacity from being overwhelmed doesn't sound a bit lit taking the virus "lightly." He could have saved thousands of lives if he'd locked up Cuomo and Murphy, Whitmer et al.
Meanwhile Trump continues to callously endanger everyone around him. He's learned about Covid? Really? I don't expect any change in his understanding of Covid-19 and it's impact on the health of America: "I learned it by really going to school. This is the real school," Trump said in a video posted seconds before he appeared outside Walter Reed, his voice sounding slightly raspy but still enthusiastic. "This isn't the let's read the book school and I get it." Afterward, members of the Secret Service voiced escalating concern at what many of the agency's personnel have determined is total disregard for their well-being amid a deadly and highly contagious pandemic. Agents have tested positive for the virus while traveling for the President's political rallies, which he insisted on maintaining even against federal health guidelines. As employees self-quarantine or isolate in place, others have been forced to work longer hours to fill the void. It's a situation that has prompted growing and more vocal concern. "That should never have happened," one current Secret Service agent who works on the presidential and first family detail said after Trump's drive-by, adding that those agents who went along for the ride would now be required to quarantine. "I mean, I wouldn't want to be around them," the agent said, expressing a view that multiple people at the Secret Service also voiced in the wake of Sunday's appearance. "The frustration with how we're treated when it comes to decisions on this illness goes back before this though. We're not disposable."
So let me get this straight, the group who legendarily would "take a bullet" for the President are afraid of a disease that more than 99.9% of patients survive? I didn't know we had that many Democrats on the Secret Service.
And the mad king marches on: "medical experts expressed despair at Trump's decision to gather huge crowds during a worsening pandemic, ahead of a swing that Trump aides said Monday would involve multiple rallies each day in the coming weeks. "I promise you, the virus is there, whether it is an indoor event or an outdoor event in these large gatherings," said Dr. William Schaffner, professor of health policy and preventive medicine at Vanderbilt University on CNN's Erin Burnett "OutFront," who added that the images of Trump's rally made him "weep." "Some of those people will become sick, they will spread it to others when they get home and they will become sick. These are accelerator events that promote the distribution of the virus," Schaffner said. Trump's mockery of his own government's recommendations -- his rallies are almost the only mass participation events taking place in the world right now -- came amid fast darkening warnings about the months ahead."
" his rallies are almost the only mass participation events taking place in the world right now" guess Portland is not on this planet. "Posted 11 October: The World Health Organization’s special envoy on COVID-19 Dr. David Nabarro in an interview stated lockdowns are not helpful as the primary means to control COVID-19." News But Democratic states like California, NY, NJ, Mich et al continue with the lockdowns because they are helpful to strangling the economy. Meanwhile Senatorial Candidate Biden keeps claiming that the slump in the economy is Trump's fault when it's actually the result of Democratic governors engaging in non helpful lockdowns.
Have College Football games where they allow fans become super spreader events? I know some of the games with fans are only 5K but many are now 20-30K fans in the stadiums.
The stated goal by the MEDICAL EXPERTS was to flatten the curve. The plan was never to PREVENT ALL TRANSMISSION. The plan worked, the medical facilities and personnel were not overwhelmed, the death rate continues to drop, as it has been doing since August. I know most people here would be aware of this, but those that only watch the Left "news" would not be aware. The WHO has stated that lockdowns are not helpful as the primary means to control COVID-19. And I am told by the Left "news" that we should be listening to those experts. Even so, with the Democratic states continuing to lockdown, the economy as indicated by the NASDAQ, S&P, and DJIA are heading back to record territory. Despite the Left "news" stating this is only for the rich fat cats, rising stock markets helps everyone that has a 401k, IRA, or other retirement plan invested, which last I saw was a majority of Americans. A better economy, a better investment return, are all good for most Americans. If you haven't noticed, the economy is coming back despite those shutdowns. Can you imagine what the economy would be if those Democrat states opened up? That is the nightmare scenario for the Left, that Trump was again right despite being mocked by the Left "news".
"Have College Football games where they allow fans become super spreader events? I know some of the games with fans are only 5K but many are now 20-30K fans in the stadiums" Makes you wonder when you look at that screaming crowd at Kyle Field last Saturday for TexA&M vs. Fla. Lot's of people on top of one another yelling at the top of their lungs without masks. I guess we will see.
It's hard to tell if Mullen was really serious, although he didn't backoff of that when questioned. But he was clearly upset by the A&M fans behind the Fla bench. Bottom line is that he's not going to get a packed stadium for LSU.
I see that the New Orleans Saints are attempting to move their games to Baton Rouge/LSU because the Mayor of New Orleans continues to deny the Saints , at least some limited number of fans in the stands. While in Baton Rouge they are able to get 25% capacity.
What about Thanksgiving? The CDC says that they are a major spreader now, and with Thanksgiving and Christmas coming up, what are we to do? Thanksgiving is one of my favorite holidays, I love the family turkey dinner and watching football. I guess we can all wear masks, but when we sit down to eat we can't and at least in my family dinners there really isn't an opportunity for social distancing at the table. US Coronavirus: Cases are surging. Small household gatherings are helping drive it, CDC chief says - CNN
While we hear over and over again that wearing masks will help fight the disease, recent reports raise some questions of how effective precautions can be. Over 70% of coronavirus patients wore mask, followed guidelines - study Reality is this is a virus and nature is difficult to hinder. Until we have an effective vaccine we're all at risk. And no politician who's limited by our Constitution will be able to eradicate it. And no matter how seriously we took the virus from the beginning there would not have been any difference.
Come on Mike we all know that if Joe Biden were president that we'd have had virtually no problems with the virus, and once he wins the election it's not just over for Trump it's over for Covid-19!!
Just like when the waters began to recede when Obama was elected, the virus will recede if Biden is elected. (Strangely, this is not even hyperbole, because the Left "news" will make sure that all negative COVID stories disappear for his sake.) Of course, our wages, savings, and economy will also recede, but that's a small price to pay in a world "free" of COVID. Did you know we are on a three month trend of declining death rate? I think this is the 11th week since the peak at the end of July. And this is with more and more locations removing more and more restrictions, INCLUDING returning to school about six weeks ago. There has been an uptick in the number of cases since early September, which is the only the thing the Left "news" is going to advertise in order to scare their viewers. No sense sharing all relevant information, instead their "job" is to create the narrative, not let their viewers decide what is pertinent and more applicable. There is no nation in the country that has handled the economy AND virus situation better than Trump, yet the Left "news" continues to harp on the "casedemic". Typical.
Agree with your sentiments, Kes...I'm a little worried, though because here in Ohio it seems NOT to be just a "casedemic" in that hospitalizations are going up along with the case count. Deaths remain low and I hope that continues...but the possibility seems there that deaths might follow the hospitalizations by a week or two. I hope not.