Using the tool provided to me by Bobda.... Vox.... I see this about those publications in your link: "RIGHT BIAS These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong" So when reading the article that bias and politicization does color the content. Hey.... seriously..... if the hospitals didn't fill their beds and ICUs and public figures didn't come down with the virus and if it didn't affect the entire world with fatalities until they took lock down measures then I could believe more of this stuff Stu. Without those lock down measures you don't think the numbers would be much much worse? But I'm not going to be political on this.... it's way more than political and should never be treated as such or we will never get back to normal.
Of course it’s a right biased web site. There is no doubt. Conservatives have a right to state facts as they see them too.
Terry, I had the two stage shingles injection two years ago as did Anne who had a miserable episode of shingles a decade ago. Only side effect I had was a sore arm and a very mild fever. Ditto for Anne.
Meanwhile Trump listens to his new campaign manager for his return to Covid press conferences: "Who was that man speaking at the White House podium, and what did he do to President Donald Trump? I'm just kidding, of course. The man addressing the media on Tuesday evening was Candidate Trump, terrified that his approval ratings are collapsing and his rival, former Vice President Joe Biden, is leading him by what could turn into a humiliating defeat in November. Unless something changes. With 105 days until Election Day, Trump launched a new campaign strategy that consists of reversing much of what he has said about the virus until now. Sticking carefully to prepared notes and taking only a few questions, Trump avoided fiery clashes with reporters, and kept the lies, deception, and misleading information to what, by Trumpian standards, were remarkably low levels."
Tracking Project reveals that the positive test rate -- indicated by the average number of positive test results out of 1,000 tests performed -- has increased significantly in many states that have seen the largest increases in new cases in recent weeks, including Florida, Arizona, Texas and Georgia. Florida, for instance, saw an average rate of 35 positive results per 1,000 tests during the month of May. But in June, that number nearly tripled to 105. So far in July, the average rate has been 187 out of 1,000.
From Stu's article: If you take nothing else from it, read this paragraph. I've been complaining all along... no true sampling has been done to create a model that can be extrapolated. Looks like I wasn't the only one who noticed.
Scott, I indicated my frustration with the lack of comprehensive and reliable data in another post. From the publicly-available data, it is impossible to make any reliable inferences, yet it hasn't stopped the armchair quarterback from ventilating from politically-charged views on all sides of the discussion. The only conclusion I can make from what is available is that all involved WANT this to be a political discussion rather than actually come up with solutions that attack the problem. This same lack of "gold standard" Hydroxychloroquine test data indicates the same. Almost all of the studies that "refute" the effectiveness are 1) severely flawed in that they specifically test methods and treatment protocols that have not been claimed to be the best use of the drug, 2) being so severely limited as to be laughably unreliable, and/or 3) blatantly falsified (documented). (The claimed best use of the drug is very early in the symptomatic presentation, with Zn and Azrythromycin.) Instead, almost universally the refuting tests/studies all point out how ineffective the treatment is when provided late in the disease, without the antibiotic and Zn, including after intubation has occurred. The political motivation prevents even entertaining the POSSIBILITY of a very cheap, readily-available, well-understood drug as providing any benefit. It cannot be refuted that as soon as Trump indicated there was a possibility that HQ could provide some benefit, the politicized MSM IMMEDIATELY went to work to destroy it. We must also consider the profit motivation that these design-flawed studies could represent. There has been no claim of such, but how would a competitor-designed study look any different? There is no argument that any "new" treatment is going to be wildly expensive, with limited availability, with much lower understanding of any side effects / long-term effects than HQ, yet that is almost exclusively what is promoted at the moment.
"because bureaucrats have prevented widespread testing" Is there an answer yet from the White House as to why the Feds are sitting on billions of dollars allocated for improving our testing capabilities? The Senate has been asking this question in recent days. "Despite severe shortages in coronavirus testing supplies and lags in results, the Trump administration is still sitting on billions of dollars in unused funding that Congress allocated months ago. Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have questions about why the money has not been used as testing continues to fall well short of the national need. "It's probably a logistical problem as much as anything else, but yeah, it's a concern," said Republican. Sen. John Cornyn of Texas" On Hydroxychloriquine.... hasn't that been exhausted yet through many studies? What is the result of it's possible preventative use as a deterrent to catching the virus..... any results yet from the Henry Ford study in Detroit?
Here is what I hear when I watch Trump speak on Covid..... and the subsequent thoughts and doubts I harbor about the veracity of what he is saying live and then later I see my thoughts corroborated in print (note... I have these thoughts as I hear him live.... not as I agree with things said later either on TV or in print) "Trump, however, went on to make misleading statements that would never have been uttered by a public health expert but that he seems to think are politically helpful. He blamed migrants from Mexico crossing the closed border for causing a spike in cases, along with young people attending anti-racism protests. The President also claimed that kids with strong immune systems don't bring the coronavirus home and that all schools can open in the fall. He did not provide any scientific evidence for the assertion or explain, for instance, why children who often pick up the flu and colds in class would not be at similar risk for transmitting the coronavirus." "
Schools have low coronavirus infection rate, German study finds Covid-19 is spreading among farmworkers, and it may get worse | Food and Environment Reporting Network Apparently social distancing doesn't do **** because there was none at the BLM protests. People can swarm in crowds night after night and the virus doesn't have any impact, but a Trump rally in Tulsa is a disaster. What a crock.
I am assuming delegates were hesitant in making their plans to attend and may have been cancelling but nevertheless Trump made the right call today in cancelling the Jacksonville portion of the GOP Convention. This: "The President, after months mocking mask wearing and social distancing guidelines, trawled for credit and claimed he was setting an "example" after deciding to cancel Republican convention events in Covid-battered Florida. Though deeming the situation too dangerous to hold the quadrennial political showpiece, he nevertheless insisted that it was perfectly safe for children to go back to school full time in a few weeks. Trump used northeastern states like New York, New Jersey and Connecticut, which lowered their infection curve with strict stay-at-home orders, as part of a misleading argument that much of the US was free of the virus. What he didn't say is that those states succeeded because they ignored his calls to reopen."
Those states "succeeded"???? WTF??? What delusional planet are you living on??? Those 3 states account for 36 percent of ALL deaths in the entire United States. The virus burned through them. There is a good article today in the Washington Post talking about "Core Groups" and how the cases in NY and other terribly hit states might have come down...basically herd immunity may have been reached not so much in the entire population but in core groups that are in situations with tremendous risk of spread. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...core-groups/&usg=AOvVaw1o2gYoqcKnud1UXO9atM_3 Unfortunately apparently you have to be a subscriber to read the article (I read it in the Cleveland Plain Dealer digital edition)...I could try and copy and paste the majority of the article if anyone is interested...would be a pretty long post.
California has been much stricter that other states ignoring suggestions to reopen, but they're seeing a surge. The only difference is that Cal's economy has been damaged much more. Wherever you get your information is blowing smoke up your ass.
By the way Dave you posted ******** about some items Trump mentioned. I posted links showing that they are backed by studies or evidence. You completely ignored them because you've got terminal TDS.
Succeeded is not measured in what happened in March/April succeeding is what is going on today and tomorrow and New York is beating Florida and Texas to a pulp based on what is happening in all three states today. Succeeding means results achieved by proper actions taken by sane.... non-conspiratorial people and leaders who are not idiots like Desantis arbitrarily picking an early re-open date to please his crazy idol Trump and no measures being followed by the Trumper population in a state of 21 million people.
Death rate per 100,000 people NJ 177 NY 168 FL 26 If your measure of success is how many citizens you've killed NY is your place Dave. How did you get out of 4th grade?
New York was hit hard early on in March and April especially amongst the elderly. Since June 1st Florida deaths outnumber NY deaths 5 to 1 and the number in Florida is climbing while NY deaths remain very very low along with new cases. I don't care too much about what happened in March but I care greatly about what's happening to me today, tomorrow and in the future. It's obvious one state took the necessary steps to deal with the virus and understood what had to be done to get the curve headed downward whereas the other state did everything wrong in it's reaction to the virus with regard to limiting it's spread and subsequent deaths. Let me know if you need something more remedial to understand that logic Gipper.
Good grief MCG you have nerve trying and failing to explain logic. Those states you say have succeeded are number 1, 2 and 3 in death rate with this virus. Florida is well below the average for the country. As to the elderly deaths in NY that caused the big numbers, that is because the Governor forced nursing homes to take in covid patients which killed other patients in the facility. Some might call that murder and he should be held accountable. You love those three states so much you should go live there.