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  1. Bobdawolverweasel

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    That poll was taken for the week of May 7th through 14th.
    Trump's infamous visit to Ford Motor Co. in which he disdainfully did not wear a mask and seemingly made it a political statement was on May 21st.
    I am sure we will see tomorrow the effects of Trump's public scorn for masks.
     
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    Can you cite to a poll that supports your claim given your self professed devotion to relying on data to support your statements?
     
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    I think you will see visual evidence today in Ok. how Trump supporters eschew mask wearing and embrace virus spreading.
     
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    More dancing around to avoid honestly acknowledging your contrafactual statement? Your statement was a majority of Republicans do not wear masks. Cited a poll which reflects your claim to be false. There are other polls which show the same although compliance numbers vary. I would avoid using the behavior of a single rally to make a a sweeping generalization about the behavior of millions of people but of course I comment about political matters here infrequently rather than being a two decade troll.
     
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    Your mediabiascheck site that you provided on here before rates Politico as "least biased"...

    Wearing a mask is for smug liberals. Refusing to is for reckless Republicans.
    ‘Set an example’: Sen. Doug Jones scolds GOP colleagues for not wearing masks
    Fox News poll: Voters say campaign rallies are a bad idea

    The earlier articles cite the difference in political views having a bearing on wearing face masks.
    The third article does cite a recent Fox News Poll showing Republicans have come around some on the idea of wearing face masks but do they wear them? Will they wear them at a Trump rally when the President himself won't wear one?

    If Trump is the crafty politician that I think he is he will shock the world tonight and come out on stage wearing his mask and invite all of the attendees to put their masks on. If he does just the opposite I think that is going to hurt his chances in November rather than help and that Fox News Poll showing that a majority of Republican voters are ok with wearing a mask is evidence that he may lose some of them if he is cavalier and careless about Covid-19 at these rallies.
     
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    The article you posted does not validate your earlier claim that the majority of Republicans do not wear masks. What senators may or may not do at a hearing or what Trump supporters do at a rally is a disingenuous deflection rather than validation of your earlier assertion. As I stated before, your claim is refuted by multiple polls. Why is it so hard for a troller to admit that one of his casting attempts used a rotting worm as bait?
     
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    Your continued hallucination that how a subset of activists might behave at a political event is determinative of how all supporters of a political party will act is unsupported by any poll. Again, you are not able to point to even ONE poll that supports your earlier “data driven“ claim that a majority of Republicans do not mask. Now you fantasize that even though a significant majority say they wear masks, you are skeptical of their veracity. I am rather hesitant to accept the moral judgements of those whose righteousness is combined with a promiscuous relationship with facts.
     
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    Not sure how this story provides supports for your yet unsubstantiated claim that a majority of Republicans do not wear masks but acknowledge that people contracting a serious virus does provide some with the opportunity to do a “own the evil Trumpsters” celebratory post.
     
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    To everyone's surprise there was only 6200 people willing to go maskless yesterday at the rally.
    Ok.... maybe 6100 out of 6200.
    So you have to wonder if it was Covid that scared everyone off or what?
     
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    Tom Inglesby from Johns Hopkins on Fox News Sunday:

    "On the subject of large gatherings, Inglesby said he was “worried” that events like President Trump’s rally in Tulsa, Okla., Saturday night and recent mass protests over the death of George Floyd, who died while in police custody, could lead to spreading of the virus.

    “Yeah, I thought that the rally was concerning in terms of public health risk. CDC’s recent guidance was that the highest risk gatherings are those that are large, indoors, where people can’t stay apart from each other more than 6 feet, and where people travel from out of town, and this rally met all of those criteria. And what I saw was that people were sitting quite close to each other, I didn’t see very many people wearing masks. There were some people hand shaking without hand sanitizer, lots of shouting. All of those things will increase the risk of spread.”

    So even Fox News has a medical expert on TV saying the above.

    So why does Trump think he is worth people risking their lives and that of their loved ones?

    When asked if he believes that the rally could be a “super spreader” event that leads to significant case increases, Inglesby said, “I am worried about that.”
     
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    Why are Democratic mayors and governors not worried that mass anti-police demonstrations could lead to significant case increases?
     
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    And they're not worried about it? Did they send out invitations for non mask wearing protestors to join them in an enclosed arena for one big Covid fest of a protest? Why do you guys extrapolate that Democratic mayors want protests and violence and Covid spreading in their cities?
    Yeah sure.... that's what they cross their fingers for..... effing ridiculous.
     
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    Did they warn people planning protests that large crowds full of yelling individuals risk spreading or getting the disease? No! They just sit back and say stupid **** like "this could be the summer of love."
     
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    Well, when you have governors, senators, congressmen, and mayors participating in both indoor and outdoor mass protests, that, to engage in an understatement, really is not sending a consistent message re the need for social distancing.

    Also, describing the complete breakdown of civil order and mayhem as the Seattle mayor does in the interview below reflects complete incompetence, a disassociation from reality, and an unwillingness to protect the lives and property of her citizens.

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    DURKAN: So, I know it will shock you that the President is perhaps not giving an accurate or truthful picture.

    We've got four blocks in Seattle that you just saw pictures of that is more like a block party...

    But we have block parties and the like in this part of Seattle all the time. It's known for that. So, I think the President - number one, there is no threat right now to the public....

    CUOMO: How long do you think Seattle in those few blocks looks like this?

    DURKAN: I don't know. We could have the Summer of Love.
     
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    A short video of Seattle’s block party:

     
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    I think Trump has become just plain delusional.....

    Trump is not just in denial but also indifferent to an unfolding American tragedy - CNNPolitics

    "The US just hit its third highest ever peak of new coronavirus cases, multiple states are registering their own daily records and three are now taking the extraordinary step of imposing quarantines for citizens from pandemic hotspots. The world's most powerful nation lacks a coherent national strategy to meet another cresting viral crisis, the capacity or even the willingness to take steps that might stop it.
    It is also led by a man who is suggesting by his actions and attitudes that he doesn't care that much about the unfolding tragedy.
    Trump, who has previously predicted a "miracle" would occur or the virus would just disappear in the warmer weather, again declared falsely Wednesday that the danger had passed -- even with the nation racing towards another deadly summit of infection."

    Hey... I know.... anyone for another rally? I hear Houston would be a great spot for a Trump rally.....

    "In Texas, if the current case trajectory continues, Houston could be the hardest-hit city in the US with numbers rivaling those in Brazil. Infection numbers are also rising in Dallas, Austin and San Antonio, said Dr. Peter Hotez, dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at the Baylor College of Medicine."
     
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