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Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by WSU1996kesley, Mar 13, 2020.

  1. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    I just don't believe you Dave, I believe that you revel in negative outcomes. You were giddy when Trump was taking a drug that he believed might be helpful, and he was attacked for doing it.
     
  2. Motorcity Gator

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    Trump was trying to save political face and that was all that amounted to.... and it was a stupid move for a 74 year old president of the United States.
    You are completely off base if you think I want negative results for anything that will end this pandemic.
    This sucks for me more than you know.... I'm not a stay at home person by any means.... never have been. I really mean it when I say that if the virus went away tomorrow but I had to give Trump all the credit then he's my guy in November.
     
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  4. gipper

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    NYC will probably go overwhelmingly for Biden. But then were talking about voters who elected and then re-elected dung bag DiBlasio. So the state that voted in Whitmer is going for Biden? You can't fix stupid.
     
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    No you can't fix stupid Gipper.... that's correct.
    Wall Street today has the jitters because of the rising new cases around the country in places like the Red state of Texas.... which yesterday experienced it's highest day yet of new cases at 2504.
    Meanwhile the "stupid" state of Michigan had it's lowest number of new cases since March at 171 which is a continuation of the state's downward curve of new cases. Yeah that Whitmer lady... what a dummy.
     
  6. Bobdawolverweasel

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  7. Motorcity Gator

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    California hits stage 3 of reopening this Friday and it's new case curve has been on the rise much like others who have reopened but Texas is on a steep rise in new cases with Arizona's infection rate now at 25%. The numbers of rising states is rising but by contrast when you look at Michigan which has been on a much chastised extended lock down it's new case curve is astoundingly and unmistakably headed to the low end of the curve. You can't help but correlate that to their mitigation efforts.
    So.... if it's the lowest rates of infection you want then Michigan certainly doesn't rate as "stupid".
     
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    In contrast to California, Michigan has for the most part opened everything up ending the stay at home order although social distancing and occupancy restrictions remain. Will be interesting to what the numbers are in a week or so in states that imposed strict quarantine measures but then took no action and, in some cases, endorsed the mass protests that have gone on since Floyd’s death.
     
  9. Motorcity Gator

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    On June 9th Michigan had 108 new cases and 171 yesterday.
    The county I live in here in Florida today alone has 116 new cases!!
    Before opening up we were running very low in daily new cases....probably less than 30 per day on average but it's been apparent in the last week that no one is practicing social distance....the bars are crowded as normal.... and hardly anyone wears masks in the grocery store etc. etc.
    Health officials are saying it's out in the community now and out of the nursing homes etc.
    Not a good development.... but hey.... maybe we can get the Republican National Convention in here and a political rally or two.....
     
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    Where's the Democratic Convention going to be, no wait, let me guess, Biden's basement.
     
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    Political rallies and Covid risk. Based on the tweets of this potential VP candidate, it appears that the risk of virus transmission is only present at Republican rallies:

     
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    For rallygoers at the upcoming Trump virus exchange party..... er.... Tulsa rally:

    "By attending the Rally, you and any guests voluntarily assume all risks related to exposure to COVID-19 and agree not to hold Donald J. Trump for President, Inc.; BOK Center; ASM Global; or any of their affiliates, directors, officers, employees, agents, contractors, or volunteers liable for any illness or injury."
     
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    "Wall Street today has the jitters because of the rising new cases around the country in places like the Red state of Texas.... which yesterday experienced it's highest day yet of new cases at 2504"

    Apparently testing in Texas is up 38% while positive tests are up 36%. Meanwhile in Fla. testing is up 37% while positive tests are up 28%. Once again...."the sky is falling." One thing that hasn't been mentioned enough is that some people who have been previously tested positive are retested and often still have positive results. It's not clear if the positive results we're getting are NEW patients or just repeat positives on the same individuals.
     
  15. Stu Ryckman

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    Gotta watch the hospitalization and death rates...so far flat or decreasing but any spike will follow a spike in cases (if true) by 2 weeks or so. Also will be interesting in where they are occurring. Is it where states opened up faster or where the civil rights rallies and protests are happening. Problem there is that both things are happening in a lot of cities and states...and both kind of happening at the same time.

    Were the markets having jitters about COVID or was it a routing sell-off after a run-up. I dunno. Doing ok today without much positive virus news.
     
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    Seeing what I see in Florida with so many Trump supporters in this state doubting the need for masks and distancing etc. I can only assume the problem is even worse in Texas because it is a deeply red state.
    Gipper if tests are up 38% and positive results up 36% are you saying that over 90% of those people in the increased test population are testing positive?
     
  17. Stu Ryckman

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    Uh...if 2% of tests are positive...and you test 38% more (138%)...and only 2% of those additional tests are positive...then you will still have a 38% increase in positives.
     
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    Stu those numbers are about right if tests are up 38% this week vs. last week.

    So the question is.... are tests in Texas up 38% this week over last week? 38% up over what time period compared to what time period?
     
  19. Stu Ryckman

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    I don't know...but I was questioning your math.
     
  20. Motorcity Gator

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    And I was agreeing with you if you were looking at new cases this week vs. last week and testing this week was up 38% over last week.
    But testing is up 38% compared to when is the question. For instance if testing is up 38% this week over week two of the virus then new cases are up sky high over that week's positive tests.
    Bottom line is that the number of new cases are climbing rapidly in Florida and in Texas.