The only time MSU led M or OSU in their games with both was when the clock hit 00.00 Great victory for them to beat the Buckeyes in Columbus without Cook. Their D was incredible.
MSU completely eliminated our rushing game. We lost the game in the trenches on both sides of the ball. Did anyone see Jim Tressel slip into the pressbox? I know he was calling the plays. :wink:
It's being reported that Eziekel Elliot said after the game that the Ohio State coaches didn't give them a chance to win and there was no way he was coming back next year. I'll bet he retracts that tomorrow.
Kp, I am wondering about that myself. OSU fans are very bitter so far this evening with the playcalling by the coaches.
Well OU barely escapes a banged up TCU with their 3rd string QB at home...TCU missed 2 2 point conversions...if they'd just kicked the first one they'd have won the game with the standard extra point.
Yet another week of chaos! (Ranking is cfp/ap) #3/#2 OSU goes down (to #9/#9 MSU) for their 1st loss. #4/#5 ND wins by a FG (against UR 3-8 BC, 0-7 in ACC play). Five turnovers??? Three inside the BC 5? Ouch. #6/#4 OkSU goes down (to #10/#10 Baylor) for their 1st loss. #8/#8 Florida needed OT to win (against 2-9 FAU). #13/#18 Utah goes down (to UR 8-3 UCLA) for their 3rd loss. #15/#17 LSU goes down (to #22/#25 Ole Miss) for their 3rd straight loss. #17/#12 UNC need OT to win (against UR 5-6 VT). #18/#11 TCU goes down (to #7/#7 OU) for their 2nd loss. #19/#13 Houston goes down (to UR 6-5 UConn) for their 1st loss. #21/UR Memphis goes down (to UR 9-2 Temple) for their 3rd straight loss. #24/#22 USC goes down (to #23/#23 Oregon) for their 4th loss. #25/#21 Wisconsin goes down (to #20/#20 NW) for their 3rd loss. 9 ranked teams go down, including 3 previously-undefeated, 2 of whom were in the top 10/playoff race. Wazzu should move to #21 at worst, #18 at best. Clemson, Bama (/Florida?), ND, MSU (/OSU/Iowa?), Baylor (/OU/OkSU?) all favorites now. UNC and Stanford might still be able to sneak in. ACC playoff will be Clemson vs. UNC. B12 champion will be OU if they win Bedlam, Baylor if they beat TCU and tu AND OkSU wins Bedlam, or OkSU if they win Bedlam AND Baylor loses to either TCU or tu. B10 will be Iowa vs. MSU if they beat PSU, or winner of OSU/UM if PSU beats MSU. P12 will be Stanford vs. winner of UCLA/USC. SEC will be Florida vs. Bama if they beat Auburn or Ole Miss loses to MSU, or Ole Miss if they beat MSU AND Auburn beats Bama. ACC has 8 bowl-eligible teams (for 9 contracted slots, plus 2 additional conditional ones). They have one more team (VT) that can become bowl-eligible if they win their final game. B12 has 6 bowl-eligible teams (for 7 contracted slots). They have two more teams (tu and KSU) that can be come bowl-eligible if they win their two remaining games. B10 has 7 bowl-eligible teams (for 9 contracted slots). They have four more teams (Indiana, Nebraska, Illinois, and Minnesota) that can become bowl-eligible if they win their final game. P12 has 9 bowl-eligible teams (for 7 contracted slots). They have one more team (uw) that can become bowl-eligible if they win their final game. SEC has 10 bowl-eligible teams (for 10 contracted slots). They have two more teams (Kentucky and Missouri) that can become bowl-eligible if they win their final game.
Clemson and Iowa are the lone remaining undefeated teams. Twelve 1-loss teams remaining: Navy (9-1) and Houston (10-1) will yet play each other UNC (10-1) will meet Clemson in the ACCCG, so there either neither or both will be here afterward. OU (10-1) and OSU (10-1) will yet play each other Baylor (9-1) MSU (10-1) and OSU (10-1) ND (10-1) Toledo (9-1) Florida (10-1) and Alabama (10-1), at least one of these will not remain here A maximum of ten 1-loss teams will remain after the CGs.
Going into the week, the SEC had non-conference games against - Charleston Southern - FAU - The Citadel - Idaho - Georgia Southern - Charlotte As expected, Alabama steam-rolled their over-matched foe 56-6. Against a horrible FAU team, Florida never trailed, but did require OT (including the possibility of an FAU win when Florida only scored six) to put them away. The Citadel ran away from SCAR. A very bad Idaho team was rightly pummeled 56-34 (34!?) by Auburn. Georgia tied the game with Georgia Southern with 6 minutes to go in the 4th, at 17 all. A stop in OT earned Georgia the hard-fought victory. Kentucky was the only other team that really took care of business, throttling a terrible Charlotte team 58-10. There aren't very many more embarrassing things than the November scheduling of several SEC teams. These results, however, are in that elite company. :shock:
P12N is 13-10 against the P12S this year, with one game remaining (between Cal and ASU). Stanford and Wazzu went 4-0 against the South. (Oregon 3-1, Cal is 0-3 (one remaining), uw 2-2, OrSU 0-4). By comparison, Utah went 4-0 against the North (??? going 1-3 against the South wasn't healthy for them), UCLA 2-2, ASU is 1-2 with one remaining, and the other three went 1-3. There was a lot of press about how the P12S was going to take over control of the P12 this year, and the North was going to have to take a back seat for the first time since the conference expanded. Eh, not so much. This is a far cry from the domination in evidence between the SECE and SECW. The SECW is 11-2 against the SECE this year, with one game remaining (between Arkansas and Missouri). Alabama, MSU, A&M, LSU all went 2-0 against the East. (Miss and Auburn went 1-1, Arkansas is 1-0 with one remaining.) In comparison, Florida and Georgia are 1-1 against the West, Missouri is 0-1 (with one remaining), and the other four are 0-2. The East continues to be the weak sister at this time, with complete domination. There was no press claiming the East would surpass the strength of the West, so there is that.
After yesterday I would say the SEC would be safer scheduling real opponents on the 3rd week of November....
Charleston Southern didn't even play their starting QB out of fear of him getting hurt and missing their upcoming playoffs. What's the point of these games?
Money for the visiting team. There is usually some sort of connection between the coaching staffs. The FCS teams need the money and the FBS team needs the schedule filler.
I understand that perspective KP, even if I don't subscribe to it. My issue is when teams aren't even trying to beat you, then what's the point of playing the game? If you need schedule filler, at least Idaho or FAU or any of the Sunbelt teams will try to beat you. You're gonna kick their ass, but at least there is SOME chance. ChasSo threw in the towel before the kickoff. I don't blame you guys. It's just a real bitch move by your opponent.
I see little difference between these FCS games and pro exhibition games. In both cases they rip off season ticket holders for sub par games.
Well I think the FCS games are going to go the way of the DoDo Bird. Big 10 won't play FCS after next year, I think other conferences are going to eliminate them as well. WVU elminated them on their own. The original reason everybody gave was that they didn't want to play a murders row schedule and that they couldn't afford to schedule home/home. That their Ath Depts needed the money from home games. So they bring in these teams who are willing to take a check and a beating at the same time. Now we're supposed to believe that they are actually being scheduled as a charity to these guys? Now legitimately sometimes when a team cancels on you there just isn't enough time to get a Div1 opponent to come to your place and to also not want you to go to their place. I think pre-SEC LSU canceled on a&M and forced them to get a late fill in and all they could get was a patsie. But for the most part, gipper is right...they are scheduled to get 1 a win, 2 a big sellout crowd's ticket revenue for the coffers. The other factor is the wear and tear on your team. By bringing in a FCS team you can rest players and get backups some pt. At this time of the year it's like an off week but with a scrimmage to stay sharp.