College Football Spring / Summer

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  1. gipper

    gipper Well-Known Member

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    Why do I think that somehow Title IX is going to cause a lot of trouble with NIL. Capitalism does not exist in the land of Equity. We've seen women's sports receive as many scholarships as men's do even though they do not generate nearly as much income. We've recently seen the US Women' Soccer team receive the same pay as the men's team even though women's World Cups do not generate any where near the revenue. It's only a matter of time until women athletes demand the same type of additional income that men do through NIL.
     
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  2. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    The old ball coach...

    I’m here to say they’re the best, not because they win the most -- of course, that’s part of it too -- but they do it the right way,” Spurrier said Monday night. “They play hard. They play clean. They don’t try to hurt their opponents. They don’t give the interception chains. They don’t do all that other stuff that other teams like to do now, it seems like. But they play the game the way it should be played. If you beat them, you have to earn it. And that’s the way it should be.”

    Steve Spurrier on Jimbo Fisher: ‘Did (Nick) Saban say something that wasn’t true?’
     
  3. George Krebs

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    Well, that settles it !
     
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    Everyone seems to be chomping at the bits for the approaching college football season.
    Yahoo has already announced they are ready for the 2022 with their Yahoo college pick'em contest. I can never remember anyone being this early. I will activate our group sometime in late July.
     
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    I was going to post Spurrier's comments.

    He obviously has a lot of respect for the Alabama program.
     
  6. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    Eli Holstein gave his verbal to Alabama. He and Arch Manning are both in the 2023 class, he is a 4 star and a top 100 player.
    I have to assume that this signals that the Tide have dropped out of the Arch Manning sweepstakes.

    Good news for Texas fans
     
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    The only problem is that Holstein decommitted from A&M, so he could decommit from Alabama too. Like I have been saying, these kids will break your heart and it's truer now than ever.
     
  8. George Krebs

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    You have to wait for Opening Day to see your final rosters for that season.
     
  9. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    Did you see the comments by Kiffin that Bryce Young should have entered the Portal even though he might not have wanted to leave but to gain leverage to force the Alabama alumni / boosters to up his NIL deal to make more money.

    Sad commentary on where we are right now.
     
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    Yeah, it is a compliment to Young that he has stayed. I wonder how many players are around that will have that attitude? Jaylen Hurts was.cut from the same mold. RMFT!
     
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    IMO, Kiffin is an outlier whose comments are not indicative of the majority of coaches. That he would suggest this kind of conduct tells me all I need to know about his own ethics. Any player who would do that, even a Bryce Young, is not someone a coach should want in his locker room, although I guess Kiffin wouldn't mind.
     
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    Isn't there a kid at Miami that is doing that same.thing?
     
  13. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    Not sure about a football player, but a basketball player who was the best player on this years team was pissed that a transfer from KState got a better NIL deal than he had for transfering. He came out and said he was into the portal unless Miami came up with some more NIL money. He never did go into the portal and got a lot of criticism for threatening to transfer. Nobody knows if Miami upped his NIL money to get him to stay or not.
     
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    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    That WR from Pitt though is a different story, he was maybe the top WR returning for 2022 and somebody put a bug in his ear that he'd be a big money free agent if he entered the Portal. Rumors are that he ended up with 3M, a house and a car for the move to USC. Pitt couldn't match that and because he was so highly thought of he had leverage.
     
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    I wonder it that will become the norm and Bryce Young the exception?
     
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    It'll end up just like the NFL assuming the money continues.
    Lots of free agents will wander around, with a few guys staying put for their own reasons...
     
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    I wonder if this might hurt the NFL? Some of the highest paid college athletes could take their 1 or 2 millions and forego the NFL and the brain damage and go into the working world. Probably not many but the money they make in college could give them options
     
  18. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    Ryan Day put some numbers to the NIL. He said that at Ohio State they needed 13 million; He also commented on what he thought it takes to keep top players on the roster.


    Fom the Columbus Dispatch --

    COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Speaking to about 100 members of the Columbus business community on Thursday morning, Ohio State football coach Ryan Day put a Name, Image and Likeness price tag on what he believes it will take to keep the Ohio State football roster together.

    That rate? $13 million.

    To some schools engaged in NIL payments at the highest level right now, that number might sound small and quaint. To many other schools in the Big Ten, it may sound gigantic and impossible. As usual, it’s a number that puts Ohio State in the thick of the latest changes to college sports, as the Buckeyes always say they seek to straddle the line of keeping up without going too far.

    Day said the Buckeyes have been gathering information by talking to recruits and their families and getting a sense of what other schools might be discussing with NIL deals. He said he believes right now top-shelf quarterbacks require $2 million in NIL money. Major offensive tackles and edge rushers he said are about $1 million.

    If you can’t match that, other teams might have a chance to pluck key players from your roster. Day told the assembled potential NIL donors that every player on the team could go in the transfer portal when this season ends, and then field calls from other schools who might be offering NIL deals. Players may feel they have to take that money to help their families.

    Unless Ohio State can offer enough to keep them here.
     
  19. George Krebs

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    Ohio State will no trouble paying the going rate, of that you can be sure. You would have to believe that in virtually all cases it is the parents driving this money grab. The NFL is no sure bet so the opportunity to cash in on junior now is too good to pass up. It is almost too distressing to even contemplate. The educational concept of playing college sports has pretty much disappeared altogether. It is never even mentioned in game broadcasts any more. Likewise school pride and loyalty are rapidly evaporating as well as these kids are revealed for the hired guns that they are.
     
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  20. Stu Ryckman

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    Here's the article I read from the Cleveland Plain Dealer covering the event...it also talks about trying to keep it "legitimate" as opposed to straight payments from boosters.

    "So Smith said the Buckeyes won’t get into the world of encouraging straight payments for recruits. Ohio State, both with its new internal program and with its outside collectives, continues to try to tie player payments to actions. On video screens at the event, possible player activities highlighted were brand endorsements, autograph signings, establishing camps, making appearances and promoting businesses."

    Ohio State believes it needs $13 million in NIL money to keep its football roster together: Doug Lesmerises
     
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