I wasn't aware that Rutgers doesn't get a full share of the Big 10 money till 2027. If that is true how pissed are they if USC and UCLA get a full share from day 1, of course RU has no power to do anything.
I guess the biggest things that have to be sorted out for the other shoe to drop is how and if ACC/Notre Dame can get out of the 10 year grant of rights contract, or even if Notre Dame has the same problems as Clemson, FSU, and/or Miami have in leaving the ACC. The other thing is there going to be some attempt to come up with a 3rd super conference in some fashion of alliances. The money for the 3rd would seem to pale compared to the Big10/SEC money, by as much as 50M per year. Big 12 adding Arizona schools, Utah and Colorado doesn't seem to move the needle in what their media rights would be, it does make sense geographically and competitively. The alliance of remaining Pac12 and ACC teams doesn't make any sense to me
Read an article by Gregg Doyel in USA Today and Indy Star. Couldn't provide link because it's subscriber only. It was pretty complimentary to Notre Dame (except not to Brian Kelly) Anyhow, here is a quote regarding ability to separate from ACC; "Notre Dame has no choice now. Its NBC contract expires in 2025, and while extracting itself from full ACC membership in other sports won’t be cheap, the Irish will be able to afford it by clearing $100 million a year in the Big Ten." It states that ND is currently clearing 15 million from the ACC and 10 million from NBC.
I read that same column by Doyel. I've become a big fan. For me, it's the most objective and sober analysis I've seen so far. It prompts me to lean slightly away from my current position that ND won't bolt from the ACC. We'll see. P.S. I agree with Stu that Doyel "....was pretty complimentary to Notre Dame (except not to Brian Kelly)".
Well Alabama has 2 of the top 10 QB'S in the 2023 class. Eli Holstein @#8 and now the #9 rated QB in Dylan Lonergan. Not bad, one almost certainly will transfer but it is a good thing to have the competition and let the best man win. kp who is backing up Young this year?
Jalen Milroe is a red shirt Freshman and is the only other QB with any experience and he doesn't have much playing time. Paul Tyson transferred so we are living on the edge.
Sid, After a couple of days to think about my previously posted thoughts on money being the issue that brings ND to conference play maybe I was a little to hasty. Unlike most other schools in conferences, especially those that would be considered powerhouses, ND is a small school, nowhere near the 40, 50, 60 thousand student population they are. Hell ND is probably still smaller than 10,000. All the money those schools get for football has to be used for much more than or many more student school needs than ND has. ND can get by on a smaller so call TV package than other schools can. They have already been doing it. Actually rethinking it now and at least for the next couple of years, until ND doesn't have a way to compete for the championship they will probably stay Independent because... they just can. When the day comes and that the powers that be say everyone must be in a conference to get to the playoffs...they will join the Big10.
Tim, I think that is going to be the issue. The big conferences are going to decide the process for the playoffs to the National Championship and if Notre Dame wants a say in that they will have to join a conference.
We'll see. That's my mantra for the foreseeable future. Tim makes an excellent point, something that hadn't occurred to me about ND's size vs. the size of most of the major programs' schools. Whatever ND's thoughts are, I just don't think they're in a hurry or feel any pressure to make a decision. I see ND biding its time unless and until, as Tim said above, it somehow becomes obvious that they can't remain independent. Is anyone certain that time will come?
I, for one, am not certain of anything. I'm just offering my opinion of the way I think the college.football world is.heading. Like.I said before, I don't like it but I think that is.the logical culmination of all of these moves towards 2 or 3 very large conferences.
I understand Tim's logic but It goes against human nature and smart business. Notre Dame can get by now on the $10M per year they apparently are getting from NBC because of their size in relation to the state schools but why should they? It has been said on here that a B1G affiliation would bring in $100M. That extra $90M would go a long way. And If they joined now they would have more leverage than if they came in under duress, hat in hand because all of a sudden they have no conduit to the NC. It's always better to negotiate from a position of strength. That's how I see it.
Well we can forget about the Big10 anyway, the Iowa AD says they aren’t looking to take anymore. So that ends the conversation right? Iowa AD says Big10 wasn’t looking before either but UCLA and usc came begging(well, calling actually)
Until a team finds a way out of the ACC media rights deal, there probably won't be any more movement by the SEC or BIG... but if/when they do, the dominoes will fall fast.
Yeah that's the key, and given how much the buyout has to be given that the media rights run through 2035, I have a hard time seeing any of those schools ponying up the cash to get out or the ACC making them a deal. As noted previously Texas and OU are still in the B12 because of the size of the buyout which is bound to be significantly less than the ACC teams face. I haven't seen anything that indicates the Irish have some different buyout. I also have to wonder if FOX will negotiate with the BIG 10 on anything other than the current lineup of 16 teams, not some speculation on what the Conference will look like in 2 years or more. Pac12 merger with the B12 won't give either the type of money that the BIG 10 and SEC are going to get soon. Seems like they would be better off adding a couple more teams even if they don't bring any more money.
I see where we received a commitment today from Jason Moore, a four star defensive lineman from Hyattsville Md, for the class of 2023 this evening. A number of schools were actively recruiting him including Notre Dame.