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  1. Bobdawolverweasel

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    A mostly peaceful protest?

     
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    "Meanwhile up in Kenosha, 3 people were shot last night, 2 dead in the peaceful protests.:
    The shooter is purported to be a 17 year old white kid who was photographed a couple of months ago at a Trump rally in Iowa front and center. Tragically mixed up kid it sounds like now charged with intentional murder.
    This kind of tragedy is what happens when rhetoric is so divisive and dangerous and you have to wonder what's going to pop out of Trump's mouth regarding it:
    Tucker Carlson's remark about 17-year-olds choosing to "maintain order" with firearms drew immediate criticism.
    "Vigilante violence was always one of my greatest worries about the present moment," tweeted Blake Hounshell, the editorial director for the politics website Politico. "And here we have a prominent TV host - a man who had the president's ear - excusing it, rationalizing it."
    "He just justified murder," added Nikole Hannah-Jones, the New York Times Magazine reporter who won a Pulitzer Prize for her work on the 1619 Project.
    Max Boot, a conservative Washington Post columnist and CNN contributor, tweeted that Carlson was "inciting violence and abetting terrorism."
     
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  3. Stu Ryckman

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  4. Stu Ryckman

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    I'd say that burning down businesses and kicking bystanders unconscious are hate crimes. I'd say that beating an elderly shop owner with a baseball bat is a hate crime. I'd say that throwing bottles, exploding fireworks, and lasers at police are hate crimes. What would I do? I'd crack down on that crap. But then I'm not a Democrat.
     
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  5. Motorcity Gator

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  6. Stu Ryckman

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    You might want to check again...it's Brookings Institution. And that's where your article came from. Go to "About Us". Or go to your own link where you searched Brookings Institute...it came up with the Public Religion Research Institute...nothing about Brookings.
     
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  7. Motorcity Gator

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    You are correct Stu.... my mistake.... and here is what it says about Brookings Institution:
    "These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias."

    So I repeat this question to you:
    So are all protestors in your mind antifa leftists rioters as Trump so often likes to group all protestors together except for the "good people" in Charlottesville that were in his mind there for a "peaceful" protest except in reality they were mostly neoNazi white supremacists.?
    Are protests in any form in America carried out peacefully and by well meaning people or should all forms of protest in America be forbidden and protestors thrown in the gulag?
     
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  8. Stu Ryckman

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    What a ******** question...peaceful protests are a part of our American freedoms...as (supposedly) is your right to have a small business shop without criminal looters and rioters posing as protestors looting it and burning it to the ground...without being in the street getting whacked unconscious with a baseball bat.

    We had several (truly) peaceful protests in my area and I am absolutely fine with that.

    And quit repeating the lie that your ilk likes to repeat about the "good people on both sides" comment...he was talking about statue removal and not neo-nazis.

    WTF is wrong with you??? You are actually asking me if I think protest should be forbidden and protestors thrown in a gulag??? Are you blind to what is going on in these "peaceful protests" that I am talking about???

    You, sir, are pissing me off.
     
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    Stu it just seems like Trump groups all Dems, liberals, protestors, Antifa, looters, teachers as one violent out of control mob.
    Especially when he infers Biden is ok with all of that..... which of course he is not.
    I figure if Biden is ok with all of that then those on the right must not believe in the American right to peaceful protest.
    Listen to how Trump paraphrases that topic tonight when he is making references to Biden and Democrats. I guess he pisses us off too!
     
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  10. Stu Ryckman

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    Not being ok with it and still ignoring it doesn’t wash with me. And then they say “mostly peaceful”. Yeah right.
     
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  11. Motorcity Gator

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    "Not being ok with it and still ignoring it doesn’t wash with me"

    Not sure I get where you're going with that.
     
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  12. Stu Ryckman

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    It took 3 days and POLLS against the Dems response before Joe came out and said it was unacceptable. He didn’t criticize the Governors and Mayors who are allowing it to happen. And he for sure didn’t support Trump trying to send help as he wants to do. Not ignoring it means trying to stop it.
     
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    I wonder why we haven't seen any of this stuff in Tarrant county where I live?
    Oh wait...

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    "The shooter is purported to be a 17 year old white kid who was photographed a couple of months ago at a Trump rally in Iowa front and center. Tragically mixed up kid it sounds like now charged with intentional murder."
    First of all, the kid turned himself in. According to media people who were there, he had been seen earlier in the evening trying to clean up graffiti. He was eventually attacked by some of the peaceful protesters who after knocking him to the ground hit him in the head with a skateboard. After he was attacked he shot. Naturally, he's been charged with intentional murder just as George Zimmerman was.
    We see over and over again the infestation of our prosecutor's offices by leftist zealots who let a Jussie Smollett off and charge people like the McCloskey's in St. Louis. And as our justice system spirals downward more people like this 17 yr. old are going to attempt to fix it.
    And Tucker Carlson drew criticism, I'm sure he did and wears it as a badge of courage.
     
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    It's a sad day Gipper for our country when a 17 year old kid can take a gun to a protest.... which is basically trouble waiting to start and illegal..... and then when he finds trouble he murders two people vigilante style and conservatives like Tucker Carlson and yourself would defend such actions.
    Trump talks about lawlessness well now he has created such an environment with his hate rhetoric.
    Sick.... and sad.
     
  16. Stu Ryckman

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    Ignoring that he was running from his attackers, one of which was beating him in the head with a skateboard after knocking him down and another one who drew down on him with a pistol.
     
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    Stu, gipper, as usual it is hard to find ALL of the relevant facts of the situation when one side is obviously going to defend a Conservative and the other side is obviously going to smear/dehumanize every Conservative. However, the message from the Left Coalition continues to infer that it is illegal to defend oneself, which is disgusting and pushing many Conservatives to a breaking point.

    The Left Coalition has created an unsafe atmosphere for Conservatives. I ask again, who is at more immediate PERSONAL danger: someone wearing "Vote Biden" hat at a Trump rally, or someone wearing a "MAGA" hat at a Biden rally? Trump supporters are not viewed as equal having been demonized and dehumanized by the Left "news" non-stop.

    The Left Coalition representatives have abdicated their duty to protect the citizens. If they continue to do so, more stories of violent REACTION to the Left Coalition violence will result. I abhor violence and do not condone it, but nobody in the Left Coalition is making ANY effort to call it out and stop it. The Left Coalition has created this division, and expects anyone that disagrees to just shut up and take it? Disgusting.
     
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    A guy with a skateboard attacks a guy with a gun? Maybe that's natural selection at work..... jeezus.
    I haven't seen those two as verified facts anywhere Stu... maybe it's true I wouldn't know.
    But in any event two people are dead and this kid's life is forever ****** up because he was motivated by someone to take a gun where he shouldn't have.
    This is NOT the Wild Wild West. Why don't we all say **** the laws and just start packing guns everywhere we go and shoot people at our discretion... whoever fucks with us or we don't like.
    You people have crossed over into plain crazy.
     
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    The kid was "motivated" by the authorities of Kenosha who refused to perform their duty to protect the public. Democratic mayors stand by as the city that made them mayor is destroyed.
    The Wild West was less destructive, it had lawmen who tried to keep the peace. Today's Democratic run cities are cesspools full of human debris that occasionally bubbles to the surface and riots.
     
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    This kid....who you are defending.... perhaps incited by Donald Trump's rhetoric... left his home in Illinois.... crossed state lines with a gun looking for trouble which he found and then he murdered two people. It's actually very tragic for the kid because it's obvious he has mental illness and has been misled by the president of this country into thinking that what he did and what he set out to do was going to be ok.
    Very very sad and defending his actions is pure insanity.


    I rest my case......
     
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