Aw, he was just sleeping behind the wheel. Or it was just his first offense. Others did worse and got less. Stuff like that.
I agree with Bill that Alabama on Dec. 5th 2009 in Atlanta was going to win the game vs. the Florida team that also showed up in Atlanta. Did the Dunlap deal affect the defense....absolutely. Did Bama's great OL getting suspended last year upset the apple cart before the Utah game.....heck yes. Why was the UF defense so off it's game.....maybe we'll never know but it was not the same defense and I don't think it is because Bama is suddenly a masterful, unstoppable offense that is head and shoulders or even on a par with OU's offense last Jan. Strange game in the long run but hey Bama played great defense and Tebow's poor throw and pick prevented any sort of a comeback. On the play it was Tebow with a poor decision to throw where he did if you remember more than any sort of athleticism by the Bama DB. In any event I think Bama's defense came to win that game and so did Ingram so it would have taken a great, focused game from Florida to pull this one out and that didn't happen so yes the Tide deserved to win the game and was better that day. Unlike some of you though the way a game goes down is as significant to me as the outcome. It's not always black and white....one team scored more than the other. Will Bama get to follow with a dominating win vs. Texas? I don't think so. Rather, this NC game is starting to resemble the atmosphere before the 2006 Gators surprised OSU and Troy Smith before the NC game that year. The storyline after the game may just be that Bama's offense really isn't as prolific as UF made them look and is probably more like the one that played Tenn and Auburn than the one in Atlanta. That doesn't mean Bama can't or won't win but I think it will be very close if they do.
George, maybe those things were said, at least kind of. However please explain to me how they meant the person who said them don't want the DUI laws enforced. You posted the NJ laws and I posted the Florida one, just where did someone say they didn't want them enforced? I don't recall anyone but you made a point of it so I am curious. I might also say that your quote above does not seem to me to apply to DUI laws but side issues to the law. Thanks
Bill, To me there are no side issues. There are no special circumstances. Not when it comes to drunk driving.
Excuse me George, unless it is part of the law it is a side issue. It is obvious to me that I was included in your comment and I want to know just what part of the DUI law I wanted ignored. Not what part of you opinion I didn't agree with but what part of the law?
What do you want me to say Bill? Let's see... Carlos was only drinking beer... that don't count. Carlos didn't actually buy the booze so it's not really HIS fault. Carlos was found passed out behind the wheel. Somebody else drove the car there. Carlos is good kid. He's just blowin' off some steam. Any of those fit? Feel better? This really bothers you. I don't really give a ****.
MCG, It's one of those things you have to deal with. Kind of like Hightower being out for the season this year. Yup obviously had to be the loss of Dunlap. Alabama and the Heisman Trophy winner sure were lucky that Dunlap was out. Funny, I didn't think it was a strange game at all, but yeah Alabama's defense was not known for its athleticism all year so you certainly wouldn't expect it in the SECCG. But I just hope that Texas screws up all night because otherwise Alabama doesn't stand a chance. I mean with an inept offense and a defense with no athleticism, we shouldn't even be there. :wink:
Let me see George, I didn't say any of those things. What I will point out is that your statement about not wanting to enforce DUI laws was wrong, period. What you should have said was that I didn't agree with your opinion, then you would have been right.
KP....without the season long defensive accomplishments by Fla....holding LSU to 3 points in Baton Rouge is no small task......without the near miss because of poor offense for Bama vs. Tenn.....UF holding OU to 14 points last year etc.....I wouldn't have this lingering doubt about the circumstances of Dec. 5th. If Bama goes on to dominate Texas then I'll be one of the first to say that when it counted most Alabama got it's act together on both sides of the ball and they are one helluva team. No doubt they are very very good but I just don't think Fla brought it's best that day.....especially on defense. Let's see what happens in Pasadena.....
Geez Dave, did it ever occur to you that perhaps Florida didn't play their best because the team on the other side of the ball played so well? There was no doubt who was the best team that day, and that day is the one that counted. Pasadena has absolutely nothing to do with who was the best in Atlanta. Bama was. The only difference Dunlap would have made is the score might have been a little closer, the winner would have been the same.
Dave, You see no matter what happens in Pasadena, Alabama did bring it at the SECCG. UF had its chance and UF got beat. That's it. UF got beat. You know you didn't hear any of this last year did you? You want to know why? Because Alabama got beat. That's it. We got beat. This is stupid, my team is playing for the national championship in a few days and I'm arguing with a guy that wants argue that a 32-13 loss is a fluke. :roll: Have fun with that, I'm moving on.
I have said without question that Bama was the best team that day....what else do you want? To open up another can of worms Utah certainly beat Bama in the Sugar Bowl but I absolutely do not think they were the better team....period. I watched the Utes struggle to eek out a win over Michigan and they just were not a better team than Bama. Better in the Sugar yes but Bama certainly did not bring it in that game. Again, do I think Bama was the better team in Atlanta? Yes...so far.....but UF did not bring it....especially on defense and if that was on Dunlap then so be it. Fact is a team is a team and Dunlap cost his team plenty....so yes Bama was the best "team" and UF was not.
So, Dave... Florida should have an ***** by it because it beat an Alabama team last year that had a player out??? Give it a rest. Your posts are so predictable. I bet that Florida NEVER lost a game where there wasn't any extenuating circumstances. Is that true Dave? Bama beat Florida. It does not matter if Dunlap was there or not. The Superman Tebow should have scored enough point to make up for the weaker defense. How do you explain the lower than normal offensive output? Dunlap didn't affect that did he? OK, let's move on to the Sugar bowl. Let's hear it before the game: What will be your excuse for losing if the mighty Gators lose to Cinci???
Bill, I don't doubt that statement as being correct. I just would have liked to hear what Dave's excuse for losing to Bama would have been before he knew that the Gators would lose. This is not an indictment against Florida in general... just against those that make excuses for every loss (read Dave).
Uh....just to set the record straight it was Florida with a star player out vs. Bama.....Percy Harvin.....and Bama did not lose their star OL Andre Smith until he was suspended on Dec. 29th....just days before the Sugar Bowl. And I am not making excuses....I am giving you reasons why I am not yet sold on Alabama as a shoo in to beat Texas. I think the Fla-Ala game result was a little deceiving with regard to the score. Not saying Bama shouldn't have won....not saying they were not the better team that day in Atlanta as I am saying Bama was better than Utah.... but I am saying that you are taking a big chance if you annoint Bama as your 32 pointer in your confidence pool. :wink:
When was the last time a Gator team was actually beaten by a better team Dave? Not by cheating refs, not because Tebow's shoulder was hurting, just a flat out better team?