I saw on the OSU/UM game B10 video that the B10 claims to have the most PGA champions. Not sure exactly if they mean most winners of tour event or most winners of the PGA event. But either way you'll fit in just fine, from what I hear BT has a world class Hosel Rocket and you have a world class hook, Stu's swing is modeled after a wood chopper and Bobda welll I don't know what Bobda's game is like. G-Man does drive the beer cart though!
BT: Significant games from Oct. 16th on the day before the first BCS poll and after the BCS projections of that week ) Auburn: - Arkansas - LSU - Alabama - SouCar Oregon: - USC - Cal - Az Ohio St: - Wisc - Iowa - PennSt You may have been able to stay ahead of Oregon.....maybe......but it would be close and the thing that would probably make the difference with the humans is indeed the thing you despise....last year's bowl results between Oregon and OSU. Keep in mind the debate before the season was that all things being equal Ohio State would not keep the SEC from being in the BCS Title game. At the time I didn't have the PAC 10 in that discussion. Go on with your opinion.....and I will go on with mine and unlike you do so often I will refrain from the personal attacks. Enjoy your bowl game....... :wink:
That is common sense and goes without saying.....after which of our victories would Auburn have jumped above us? The answer is none.....it wouldn't have happened. Do you ever ask yourself the question that if the pollsters believe in the same fairy tales as you do, why did they vote us #1, above both, to begin with? Personal attacks? If I see someone acting like a dumba$$ and I say that he is acting like a dumba$$, that is not a personal attack, it is an observation. Dude, I'm just calling a spade a spade.....perhaps if you change your behaviors such that they become somewhere close to mature and socially acceptable in civil, adult circles, observations such as the ones I made would become unnecessary.....certainly you are aware that I am nowhere near the first to make such observations about your behavior, I do hope that I am the last......but I am not optimistic.
I'll just respond to your question about Auburn: While Ohio State was playing this slate of teams as it best games post Oct 16th: ( Harris poll rankings are at the time they played each other ) Wisc #16 Iowa #19 all other OSU opponents unranked Auburn was playing this much higher ranked schedule: Arkansas #13 LSU #6 Bama #11 And now Auburn has #17 SouCar while Ohio State sits idle. You tell me if Auburn would be left out of the BCS Title game at 13-0 with that resume while twice vanquished by the SEC in the BCS Title game Ohio State stayed ahead of the Tigers???? The odd man out is either Oregon or OSU in that three team scenario.....take your pick. But it would not be Auburn. If you think this is just SEC chest thumping you are making up a story here and forgetting our past debate. The debate is that this year's Ohio State schedule would not allow them to surpass an SEC team in the final BCS rankings before title game selection time with everything else being equal between the two teams.....period. That was the debate....that was the disagreement we had and it was not a "chest thumping" exercise.
Your rant was that the schedule is so soft that we would not be able to make the title game......you've already acknowledged that it is likely that we would have been able to stay above Oregon, therefore you have already flushed your very own fairy tale down the shitter.... The voters are asked to judge the best teams in the country all things considered.....not the toughest schedule, best uniforms nor any other style related element. They believed that to be us before Wisky, they would have believed that to be us after Wisky - perhaps moreso - and I ask after which of our wins would they have thought that to no longer be true...... Dude, what you are doing is the equivalent of judging the Miss America contest based upon the color of shoes they are wearing as opposed to the entire "body" of their work ......I don't think that is the essence of the contest, but if it is the only argument you can make that will suit your purposes, it is expected that you will continue to make it, independent of its merits......only an idiot would believe that this is unrelated to your primal SEC chest thumping in light of your Gator meltdown and I don't believe there are many idiots lurking....perhaps you feel otherwise. Carry on tarzan.....
So not true.....I predicted OSU in the title game.....because of that schedule and that pissed you off. I said all else being equal.....same record......that Ohio State would not....could not....because of that schedule edge out an SEC team this season for the title game. From a post I made on August 22nd: "I am not a fan of OSU by any means as you know but this time around I think OSU get's to that game and Tressel has the better prepared team and prevents the BCS buster from bustin it. My preseason prediction for what it's worth. Against anyone else I'll have to re-evaluate at the end of the season." ( FYI....this was a prediction I made in August of an OSU victory against Boise in the title game.....I did not think then that an SEC team could go unbeaten as I thought Ohio State would do) Again....here are the current BCS computer rankings: Auburn 1 Oregon 2 OSU 11.75 A win over Wisky get OSU closer to the top.....but how close? Wisky was only #16 in the Harris poll at the time the Buckeyes would have beaten them and sent them toward the bottom of the Top 25. The Harris voters couldn't give two sh*ts where they ranked OSU on October 10th. As the season played out Auburn would have jumped the Buckeyes in the Harris if not the Coaches Poll. Last I checked 2/3 is more than 1/3 any day.
Here is what you said and I quote: Now you want to amend that statement and say you were only talking about the SEC......of course. You say so much that often you can pick and choose and with selective and creative editing, you accurately predict just about anything that you so desire......of course then you are also equally wrong about anything and everything, hence the broken clock analogy. From the start we were ranked ahead of both in both human polls......we reached #1 the week before the Wisky game in both human polls. Our lead in both was overwhelming....we had in excess of 80% of the 1st place votes in both polls....Auburn had zero as in none, nada, not one. You keep saying by some miracle that both (or just Auburn depending upon which version is most convenient to you) magically leapfrog us in the human polls after one of our victories and I continue to ask....after which of our wins would Auburn/either/both have jumped over us given any scenario much less the overwhelming nature of our lead.....simple question. It wouldn't have happened no matter which shoe style she was wearing.....because shoe style is not what is being judged and she was so far behind her chances were infinitesimal under any circumstance. Of course it's all speculation, but the scenario you're suggesting is without precedent to the best of my memory. I can not recall another instance of an undefeated champion of a major conference after having achieved top ranking in overwhelming fashion being leapfrogged by another team so far below them so long as they continued winning.....it has certainly never happened to us and why you find it worthwhile to concoct such a bizarre circumstance is the story in and of itself......only in fairy tales Tarzan.....keep thumping to yourself and enjoy your December trip to central Florida for your 3rd tier bowl game in a half-filled stadium in front of a television audience roughly equivalent in size to those found watching 2:00 am infomercials for acme bunion pads.....
No they didn't......but they had yet to play the meat of their SEC schedule....Ark, LSU, Bama. You can disagree but those teams are the reason Auburn ascended to the top the way they did....that and the success of SouCar beating Bama. ( Aub beat SC in Sept. ) You really think that Ohio State would have stayed above Auburn given all that is laid out in front of you? Are you that stubborn? Geezus.....it's hopeless. And yes....my original statement back in August was more directed to an OSU-SEC comparison with regard to BCS Title game admittance. I don't know that Oregon could have held OSU out...especially with the voters.....but that is more because of the Rose Bowl last year and not because of who the Buckeyes were beating this season.
We've made progress.....at least now you have dismissed your foolish notion of us being leapfrogged by both...... Re; Auburn, in light of our overwhelming lead, without question. It has never happened to us. When was the last time it happened to anybody? Has it ever happened? I don't believe it has under these circumstances....show me. Again, I'm curious after which of our wins would Auburn have magically grown wings and ascended skyward...perhaps after their dominating performance over that juggernaut Kentucky would have been compelling to the voters? Dude, you are just drunk on SEC kool-aid thumping your chest to salve your wounds, nothing more......same old, same old. Get lost Tarzan.....go piss on somebody else for awhile.
Auburn beating #13 Ark when OSU would have beat #16 Wisky is a plus for Auburn. Other than that there were probably no Saturdays when Ohio State could have held strong while Auburn ascended. The very end game if not before would be this Saturday when Auburn ( if they do ) beats SC while Ohio State is done. The voters would sit around....consider the facts and keep Auburn ahead of Ohio State.....because they had already placed them there after the Bama victory. The ultimate kicker is the one that you use with Oregon from last year.....the two BCS title losses by OSU to SEC teams in very recent years. Keep in mind that this scenario has a super team.....the New England Patriots if you will......that already ensures itself of one of the two BCS spots while OSU and Auburn fight for the other one that is left. See Boise and TCU just about every year. Their schedule or lack of has consistently allowed them to fall behind teams they were previously ahead of. That's what Michigan thought when they were sure of an OSU rematch in 2006. :wink: Overwhelmeing lead as I say before Auburn had played the meat of their SEC schedule while Ohio State was mired in the muck of the regular season Big 10 schedule with only #19 Iowa to give it any credence. I don't blame MSU fans by the way....who want to know what in the hell gives Ohio State a pass into the BCS when the Spartys beat the conference's strongest team by 10 points and they have the same record as the Buckeyes.
:lol: Patently absurd.....in which year, at what point in the season did Boise or TCU ever belong to a major conference and/or have an overwhelming lead in the polls? Now you're just making crap up well beyond the point of reason because you have nothing of merit to suppport your position, you'll have to continue alone.....
The point about Boise and TCU is their schedule ratings have always killed them in the end. I think Gipper pointed out you already what the OSU schedule ranking was like......and that it fit in somewhere around TCU's and Boise's. Hey....if it makes you feel any better I think the Big 10 will actually fare well this bowl season. I expect victories from Wisky, MSU and maybe 3 or 4 others out of the 8 total going bowling. Maybe next year the Big 10 will get more benefit of the doubt.
And you enjoy your sure to be disastrous trip down to New Orleans to play an SEC team which always causes the Buckeyes quite a large amount of distress based on their previous SEC encounters. :wink: And with that I am done as well with this particular debate.