Big Ten....really that bad?

Well BT you like to think the whole decade is equally relevant I suppose and I prefer to look at the last 2 or 3 years as being more relevant to the upcoming season because a lot of the players are still around from those years and none are around from the Zook era for example.

Florida's present coach is 2-1 vs. the Big Ten with a nifty NC in his pocket gathered in at the expense of the undefeated Big Ten champion.

Can't see why I would have any reason to worry about Florida's overall 9-5 Big Ten record going south with the present regime in place in Gainesville. Now that's relevancy to me.

Besides....I am debating this with a fan of a team that is 0 for it's last 9 vs. the SEC. :shock:

For Corey here is something interesting:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3404982

 

LOL you crack me up

<t>You make these sweeping statements of condemnation in the macro view.. then when the factual reality of those statements is challenged, you switch to the micro view.. When that viewpoint is challenged, you switch to a selective historic representation that best suits your case... still without on iota of evidence that can stand up against any practical methodology used to sort the order of these things.<br/>
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I've been reading you pounding these big10 boys for a while now. You provide the articles and even cited the past 5 years (since you are so into recent events) bowl records as 'proof' of your claim. When the numbers were dissected and your claim was clearly blown up like a june bug taped to an M80, you shift the argument again and now post an op-ed fluff piece that is of little substance.<br/>
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Since 1998, 3 teams with 1 or more loss have won a national title. Better than that, they have been given the chance to win a title over other teams with 1 loss or identical records. All 3 of those teams were from the SEC conference.<br/>
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No team has reaped more reward top to bottom from the BCS system than the SEC and I don't think you'd find anyone involved in the SEC itself who would tell you differently! But I digress...<br/>
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First you pointed to the last 5 years to support your case.. only to be exposed that 2 conferences that you also hold in contempt are far more responsible for the big10's woes than the SEC. You basically glossed this point.<br/>
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You talk about 'recent' activity, but down play or make excuses for the fact that you were beaten in Orlando by a Michigan team from the Big10.<br/>
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Now you've moved to championing selective years 'when it counts'..<br/>
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just give it up already. stfu</t>

 

Speaking of twisting things around......

BT wants to hang his Big Ten hat on the fact that Florida lost twice in bowls to the Big Ten under the tutelage of Ron Zook....who by the way now continues his miserable bowl ways at none other than a Big Ten school.

The biggest and most weighted head to head clashes the SEC and Big Ten have had in recent....relevant times has been the national title game where the SEC dominated it's Big Ten opponent.

You guys would rather throw more weight on Michigan beating Florida last year in a non-BCS bowl and that's just laughable as hell.

And I don't make excuses for Florida in that game....you don't read and comprehend very well do you.

Michigan had a great offense and exploited Florida's weakness on defense with it and were motivated highly by Carr's last game scenario.

That's not an excuse....just analysis of what happened.

 

MCG... Please... give it a break. Soon we will have a new season to talk about. You're running... make that, you have run this into the ground. Drop it... please!

 

Tom,

I posted the topic as a sort of follow-up because the link I provided is from CFN and involves a panel of media types from different online sports news services discussing the Big Ten question.

I felt the answers were not all one-sided against the Big Ten and it was relevant to recent discussions here.

I probably should have retracted the comment on the 14-22 bowl record as that obviously was inflamatory.

 

Nonsense....that just tells me that you've ignored everything else that has been posted that evidences your claims as nothing more than mean-spirited, rude drivel intended for no other purpose but to antagonize and to minimize the accomplishments of others in a vain effort to feel better about a 4 loss season.

You need to take your act to a smack board where your style is better suited and your unique talents better appreciated. I had thought that one of the purposes of this board was to provide an atmosphere without the particular kind of crap that you so enjoy dispensing..... I'm with Corey, stfu.

 

BT....your case is one of singling Florida out as an example of why the Big Ten is just as good if not better than the SEC.

I simply say....in what era?

The Zook era?....absolutely Florida left a lot to be desired vs. the Big Ten under Zook which was five years ago....and as I said Zook's bowl coaching is now a Big Ten problem.

The present era...the Meyer era?.......Florida has added credence to the SEC side of the debate considerably.

But this is not a winnable debate on this forum as you or I will not wilt from our positions.

Unfortunately for you due to recent national title results and season/bowl results last year this will not go away in the national media as evidenced by the roundtable discussion of the topic on CFN.

On Skybox I will let it rest as a topic starter but keep in mind if I am posting about something unrelated but someone wants to dredge it back up with zingers directed my way I will respond in kind.

 

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That is hilarious....

 

With that, I think this topic has run its course.