... and Bill's grammar was correct if you read that to say my dollars are on... But it is incorrect if you read it to say my money is. I assure you, the first one was what he meant. :wink:
poke fun at me all ya want, but i stand by my principles on the matter... even when they don't directly effect my team. If you can't stand up for the other guy when he's being wronged, how can you possible expect anyone to do right by you when it's your time? Now I understand how a gaggle of folks from the soulless hordes known as the big10 and SEC would fail to see 'what is right', I'd like to mention it's not I bringing the subject up. Quite often it's someone else posting a new piece of propaganda that they believe will somehow change my mind. I mean, I can ignore it if you like but when people post items calling me by name it is a bit rude to ignore them. I suppose the pro-BCS crowd is right. I suppose those jihadis have a point as well. I mean, it's really none of my business and all they are really doing is acting in their own self-interest. Speaking of that.. regarding the B10HC. Seems like another case of "Big10 morals" on display. They are like Walmart shoppers.. Doing what's best for the family today by saving money, by destroying the economy of tomorrow. Allowing ND into the dance would be really special. Hypocrisy personified. I do giggle a bit about what the rest of college hockey could do without them. There'd be a few great ironies here in all of this: -The WCHA would still be a better conference annually. -You guys would still be hind tit to hockey east. -This might actually create an opening that would allow UAH hockey to survive.
Corey, Take your finger off the nuclear button. I was not mocking you. I like you too much for that and enjoy the passion that both MCG and you bring to the debating table. My post was meant not to be malicious but more of be a back-of-the-class spitball to stir up things up on a slow night since I assumed you might not be aware of the machinations going on re the possibility of a B10 hockey conference. If it does come into existence, I suspect ND would choose to become a member rather they stay in the CCHA given that there are more than a few CCHA schools-LSSC, Ferris State, Bowling Green- having a difficult time due to the recession financing a team. I suspect that if Ohio State, Michigan, MSU, and ND left the CCHA, the CCHA would face the possibility of having the same fate as the CHA since a lot of the revenue generated by schools like Ferris is when the larger schools visit. Otherwise their attendance figures are pretty dismal and they would have a difficult time financing as expensive a sport as hockey. If Minnesota and Wisconsin left the WCHA for the B10HC, it would become a dominant conference. One only has to look at the historical track record of Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, and MSU and the more recent success of ND and OSU to see that. The WCHA would still have North Dakota, CC, and Denver, all traditional powers, but the depth of the conference would not compare. However, if Minnesota stayed, that would be a different story but I would be surprised if Minnesota jumped. You lived there so you know how hockey mad the stae is and the depth of its high school hockey talent. Leaving fellow state schools high are dry would not play well there and would be perceived as treachery to the motherland. I doubt if there is any interest in the Gopher's administration to move. Looking at it as a Michigan fan, there are plus and minus. The good thing about the present state of college hockey is the David versus Goliath match ups are great when David can occasionally imbed the rock into the big guy's forehead.. But, the CCHA, unlike the WCHA, has significant problems in terms of financial viability of some of the teams and has real competitive balance issues. So, in that regard, a B10 conference would be a more completive league offering an overall better quality of hockey than the CCHA.
Nothing. If the B10HC did come about, the WCHA would, I am sure, woo ND big time. It really would come down to $$$. Travel costs for a WCHA team would involve trips to Colorado, North Dakota, and Alaska. A B10 leauge would confine travel costs to Midwest plus add revenue from the B10 network. Also, the several teams in the B10 conference have long-standing, sometimes acrimonious rivalries with ND which would draw greater interest in the sport for the school i.e., putting aside the antipathy that a ND fan( not speaking of you, of course) may feel for the B10, I suspect a casual ND hockey fan would be more likely to turn on the TV if ND was playing Mich., MSU, or OSU than Colorado College or Denver.
Good points on the travel costs and maintaining rivalries. Even as a only occassional hockey bandwaggoner I can get up for ND/UM and ND/MSU etc..but Colorado College maybe not so much.
If the Gators can't make it Bobda that sounds like a winner to me. I don't have an opinion about hockey. :
Obviously you've never experienced an ass kicking at the hands of the obnoxious CC or Denver fans Bobda, ND hasn't been good in enough in so long my finger couldn't even find the nuke button anymore. I see the appeal for a B10HC, but the WHCA is really, really good. Living in MN I know full well their mindset about college hockey. There is Minnesota, Michigan, the Northeast and Canada...everyone else sucks.. Wisconsin is only decent because they poach players from Minnesota and Michigan. For the record hockey fans (at least you part timers): Notre Dame, Michigan State, Michigan and Northern Michigan are all former members of the WCHA. If the Gophers and Badgers bailed, that would hurt the WCHA for sure but you still have teams like Denver (7 titles), North Dakota (7 titles), and Colorado College (2 titles), Michigan Tech (3 titles)... teams like UMD have been runner-up a few times.. It is a crazy deep conference. They will be adding Bemidji and UN-O soon.. Personally, I'm all for someone leaving either the CCHA or the WCHA to create a spot for UAH to play. Regionalization may not be a bad idea. I just don't buy into the notion that the B10HC would be the supreme leader of college hockey. These guys would just claim those leaving are ducking them <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/UxKYuyJeqoM&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/UxKYuyJeqoM&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>