Corey, my remarks were made in humor, at least I thought so. What it does point out to me however is how you love to hand it out and it's a different story when it comes your way. Dave, of course Corey's comments were shallow, but you added to them. Especially when you put down that the 99 Gator team was weak when it was not. Going into the FSU game which was the 10th of the season we were 9 - 1 with the one loss being to Alabama 40 - 39 in OT. We lost to FSU, I believe they were the eventual NC 30 - 23 then lost that game to Alabama 34 - 7, then lost in the Citrus Bowl to Mich State. Until that three game loss we were a dropped punt from being unbeaten. When it was all over we were still ranked and that 34 - 7 loss was by far the worst we had all season, the least points we scored all season and a beating. But that was not a bad team.
Steve Spurrier's only three game losing streak and maybe UF's only streak like that since the 80s. Gave up an average of 34 points in those losses and so I wouldn't call them good by any means. Should have been a better team but they just didn't pan out. In any event like I said it has no bearing on what has been going on between Bama and UF lately. '99 Fla and '99 Bama were a far cry from NC caliber teams that season and both have had two coaches since then. You might as well thrown in the 10 years before that as well but Corey conveniently cut those off because they didn't suit his argument. I'm willing to go this decade if you want recent history but in fairness to Alabama what counts is the last two years and what happens in the next two years to see where the two programs stand presently. '99 though as I said doesn't mean squat to this "who owns who" B/S.
Dave, you are worse than Corey with your selective statistics. Giving up points does not explain the Gators only scoring 7 points in that game with Alabama. Their defense dominated and we lost. That was a beating and it's a shame that you have to find excuses for losses. What the Gators have accomplished since Spurrier arrived in 1990 says enough about the Gator program. You only diminish by making excuses for the times we don't win.
By the way Corey your statement about Alabama being 4 - 2 against the Gators is not true. Ten years would be the decade from 2000 through 2009. Including the 1999 year would be 11 seasons. So it's according to what you wanted to say. If you want to say 10 years then our record is 2 - 2. If you want to be selective and use 11 years we would be 2 -4 in an 11 year time frame. What would likely make as much sense though would is to do it by decades. The last 10 years it is 2 - 2, the last 20 years the Gators lead 8 - 5, and the last 30 years the Gators lead 9 - 6. Prior to that it was pretty much all Alabama. Our all time record against them is 14 - 22. Interesting enough Corey the Gators have a winning record against every SEC team since 1980. I know that doesn't fit your view of history or tradition but it will do for me.
AJ, I like your humor on this thread and do want to commend you for your sense of humor. I attempted to add to it but somehow what I said was either wrong or taken out of context. However it's to bad that a couple of folks just can't let a little fun go by.
edit....that's not what this is about Bill. It's about Corey taking shots at UF...aggrandizing what Bama has done vs. UF in the process. Where am I making excuses? By the way...Bama lost the Orange Bowl that year also so they may have certainly been better than Fla but not a great team either. Otherwise....your second post has some very good stats and reflects what I am saying here.
Bill, I agree. You pointed out that your post was an attempt at humor. I didn't buy it, but we just moved on past that.. Fine. Dave is still going. BTW-Dave, End of story.
Do I even need to break this down? Even when Bama was the better team, you still have to put them down and your own team down in the process. Only when Florida wins is the case ever closed with you.
I am going to agree with you here Corey, I get tired of him making excuses for anytime we lose. He doesn't seem to do that when we are an underdog and win. I need a topic or forum for you and Dave. :roll: :roll:
No Bill, it plays exactly into what I have been saying. Your recent history is undeniable. It is right up there with some of the great runs in college football history. Why go by decade? I was using the 10 year reference as one that Dave often uses when trying to pump up Gator credibility (which btw, for the record, stands on its own). You accuse me of being selective, but all I am doing is not drinking the kool-aid, or Gatorade as it were.. You, correctly, point to the distinction between your posting style and Dave's but you are the two active posting members. We use to have a few others that were way more like Dave than you and Wendy. Now, I could go on a Dave like rant here and show that (using your 1980 benchmark), you aren't even the best team in Florida let alone the nation.. but instead, I will just attempt (again) to bow out and let you Gators celebrate your incredible, long and illustrious history... that goes beyond questioning or debate.
No, I will take you at your word. As I said, I certainly didn't read it that way. Perhaps an extra smiley face would have done the trick? : D What I was saying is that I didn't take your posting as humor at all, thus my response... I then acknowledged (jesus, this reads like a police report) that was where the 'break' was and moved on.... Dave is still explaining the 99 thing.
Sorry Corey, you did not use a 10 year record, you used an 11 year record. If that's what you want to use say so. However if you want to talke 10 years I just clarified the record and used two other 10 year periods. So which selective period is it, 10 years, or the 2000 decade, or 11 years which would use 1999. Inquiring minds just want to know. :wink: :wink:
That flew right over my head the first time Terry. Actually if you are talking about winning percentage then you might want to consult Boise State.
Terry, my bowling was coming around and after a tough start I had averaged around 180 over the last two months. However last week was not good. I hope I understand what went wrong and can correct it starting tomorrow. At my advanced age, :roll: :roll: . I am trying to remake a couple of aspects of my game. How's your golf game?
It gets below 50 here Bill so I put my golf clubs away for a couple of months. Looking forward to Spring!!
Damn....Terry...you got me on that one! But....the Gators do not "own" Alabama in this century.....let me make that perfectly clear.... 8) :lol: