Another View Of The BCS By Dennis Dodd

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  1. IrishCorey

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  2. Gator Bill

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    Nothing Corey, just an image I've had for a bit and forgot about.

    But that guy may find his answers yet! :)
     
  3. Motorcity Gator

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    Dodd weighs in again.......and it makes sense to me given my current situation...

    http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/11435649
     
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    Perusing CFN I came across this article for a review of the past season's BCS ending:

    "Don’t fall for the trap that Florida’s 24-14 win over Oklahoma was “ugly”, thus opening the door for Utah, USC, or Texas to earn a split national championship. Now, I’d love nothing more than a chaotic situation that adds another stain to the BCS, and those schools have valid beefs, but the Gator victory was a lot more impressive than most will assume. You see, you can earn style points without scoring a lot of offensive points. The Florida D did exactly that with one of the great efforts of the entire season. Before whacking this game with the ugly stick, watch the game again with all of Oklahoma’s regular season numbers spread out nearby. The Sooner team that was held to just 14 points hadn’t been kept under 58 since the middle of October and was the prolific offense in NCAA history. The Gators made two huge goal line stands just before half. They got a tremendous game from the secondary and were well-prepared by coordinator Charlie Strong. They stopped Oklahoma, which most thought was impossible. Just because there weren’t as many fireworks as everyone expected does not mean that this Florida victory wasn’t a beautiful work of art. Or any less worthy of a national championship. - Richard Cirminiello"

    Well done Richard.......
    :D
     
  5. Gator Bill

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    MCG, I'm waiting anxiously for the responses. :)
     
  6. IrishCorey

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    You won't have to wait long Bill :)


    Dave,
    Style points?!?!? Style points?!?!?! It's goddamned football!!!! If you want style points, I suggest you follow this:

    [​IMG]

    As for Dodd's article, he makes a valid point in that... don't look for Congress to save college football from itself. However, anyone looking to Congress for salvation is looking in the wrong place.

    The answer really isn't difficult and it is right there in front of everyone's eyes. The NCAA itself can revoke sanction of it all. They turn over control of DI Bowl Subdivision football. They can institute a playoff at any time...but they won't. Its a cash grab, not a championship.
     
  7. Motorcity Gator

    Motorcity Gator Well-Known Member

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    ...whatever it is....we like it! :D
     
  8. IrishCorey

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    You've won 2 titles in 3 years in this system and your conference has won the last 3 straight (and 4 of the last 6)...a run of success unmatched in the history of the game for the SEC...

    I'd love it too if I were an SEC fans... but increasingly, you are becoming a minority on this issue. Congressional investigations... (2 in the past 4 years), and even SNL makes fun of the BCS. They re-ran it last night... You can watch it here.. Will Forte's BCS song starts at about the 3 min mark. It is pretty funny.
     
  9. Gator Bill

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    Reality check Corey. No one here says the system can't be improved, but I bet my opinion that it's better than what we had and will evolve into more of a playoff is a lot closer to a majority opinion that a lot of the rants you have put out.

    You are the one that can only have it your way. Like Terry said no matter what system we use Corey will likely be moaning over some team or conference that didn't get treated fairly.

    Just another accuracy check for your statement.

    Yes I would rather my conference be doing what they have done in recent years than not winning. However for the SEC to win three in a row there is something you always manage to blow by.

    The SEC won all three games on the field, against good opponents and won them in a convincing fashion.

    To bad that bothers you, me I like it.
     
  10. Motorcity Gator

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    ....It's not too late you know....... :D
     
  11. Motorcity Gator

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    I would say you have to first respect the opponents that the SEC beat for those titles....and maybe Corey doesn't.

    In a 16 team playoff the champion would wind up playing only 4 of those teams. Who knows how that champion would fare against the other 11 teams it didn't have to face? There could many reasons why that champ didn't have to play any of those 11 and I am sure many a controversy could be drawn up as to why team A was seeded higher than team B and why team C had play at team D's home field etc. etc.

    Everybody thinks Div 2 playoffs work just fine but Div 1 is much higher profile media wise and these molehills of controversy would become mountains in the glaring lights.
     
  12. IrishCorey

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    reality check Bill (and Dave):

    1. You continue to obfuscate my point with a nice, fat brush stroke to paint me as a zealous SEC/Florida hating lunatic. Just to clarify (for the 1000th time at least)... I hate the system, not your team. Terry's point that you just LOVE to refer to (thanks T) is 100% off-base. Its at best a straw man statement.

    2. I find it funny that all of a sudden I don't respect the opponents that the SEC teams beat to win those titles. I mean, Jesus Christ, Dave spent damned near an entire 365 day calender year poking fun of Ohio State... Now all of a sudden, he respects them?

    3. It is football, if style points are playing a part of determining who is, and isn't, playing for a title... that is a problem.

    4. We can throw around notions such as 'molehills becoming mountains of controversy' because of who is in and who isn't, but you know that simply is not true. The facts do not stand up to these incredible claims. The games would be played on the field, not behind closed doors and in press rooms. All I am asking is to let the kids who earned the right to play it out on the field, to actually have the chance to do so.
     
  13. Gator Bill

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    Corey, if anyone has painted you with the broad brush you refer to, you have done it to yourself.

    As to MCG and his posts about Ohio State and other schools, you may live in a cave but he's had his topics locked and posts deleted more than anyone else here. Probably the majority of them by me.

    But you ignore that.
     
  14. Motorcity Gator

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    If I were a Texas fan....or a Utah fan....or a USC fan I would be more inclined knowing me to lean to Corey's side of the fence with regard to this issue.

    That said....because of this....
    ...I am reiterating that I do not feel a playoff would be the answer to end the controversy because every little edge gained by one team over the other would be subject to great debate and the "system" would fall under attack...whatever the system is.

    For example, I could see Texas having to play at OU because OU was conference champ due to Big 12 rules and man wouldn't that frost some people.

    I could see Utah having to play at Penn State and everyone would say how that wasn't fair when Utah was unbeaten and the NIts had a loss, blah blah blah....
     
  15. IrishCorey

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    I'm not ignoring that. I'm just stating the fact that he called them out over and over again... now he respects them? psshaw...
     
  16. Motorcity Gator

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    Actually Corey I am alluding to the fact that you had oodles of respect for the SEC's last three BC title game opponents and as a result I believe you took the opposite view as I did in the 2007 season and leading into this one so you must have thought those opponents were about as good as any playoff could have possibly provided.
     
  17. HUSKERMAN-HUSKERFAN

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    Guys, I'm half way through my psych class so let me use some of the tools I've learned on ya....

    WTF is the argument here?

    Or maybe that was debate class....I'm cornfused.
     
  18. HUSKERMAN-HUSKERFAN

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    BTW Corey....obfuscate....good word.

    I had to look it up first.
     
  19. IrishCorey

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    It would appear the new argument of the day is:

    Trojans/Vols, who is more gay and is there anything wrong with it?

    [​IMG]
     
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    That may as well be the new argument cause you sure ain't gettin' anywhere with this one....