I fully support Fla. as #1 and believe they would and should be favored over the Utes...but Gaterz...that is selective statistics at its best (or worst). :roll:
Hey ... it's factual point of reference ... and not just some meaningless hypothetical, assumption, or supposition. It doesn't prove how one team may fare in another conference but .... it may very well give some indication. But we'll never know as regards 2008 college football.
You are comparing how he did against the SEC champ vs. how he did vs. the entire B12 conference from top to bottom (unless I missed your point). That shows you nothing about whether he would do better against the entire SEC conference vs. how he did vs. his own conference...it is a meaningless stat and indicates nothing. Comparing how he did vs., say Texas, vs. how he did against Fla. might at least indicate something, if only to compare the defenses of the two teams. But whatever...not trying to get into a pi@@ing contest here.
Stu, I have to say this, if you that that is the worst use of statistics you've ever seen then you haven't been reading Corey's posts. :twisted: :twisted:
By the way Stu I agree with your second post to Gaterz above, comparing how Bradford did against Texas is more meaningful than how he did against the whole conference. I don't know the QB rating but think he was pretty good that day.
Well, based upon your own subjective analysis, you choose to characterize it as a meaningless stat .... but that doesn't it make it so. Be happy!! :lol: Go Gators!!
More ad hominem and crap, long after I've tried to drop this subject. That 'Cotton Bowl Champion' was beaten by Wake Forest, Vandy and South Carolina. They were also topped by Bama. They escaped with wins over Arkansas and Auburn. You can woulda, coulda, shoulda all you want but the facts are the facts... They beat you. You lost and they didn't. Now the facts of this flawed system is that you and Oklahoma wind up playing for #1. Texas could make the case that they should have been there instead of OU... USC as well... but that's how it unfolds. You can't even spend your day of celebration without going back to it..and that is what makes this system so sh*tty... I'm trying to take the high road, and just like your coach, you gotta try to score a few more meaningless points.. OK, have it your way.
This comment you made in reference to Utah and I countered that Utah had some shaky game(s) against some shaky competition. They played Bama without Smith while Florida played Bama without the services of Harvin while Bama had Smith. I guess if you wanna compare #14 Ole Miss to a 3-9 team that lost to Toledo then that's your option. That's all good enough for me....but maybe not you.....whatever.....the majority feel Florida is #1 and more importantly all the polls do too....and as I said that's good enough for me.
If you wanna keep referring to 'that 3-9' team, why not go ahead and call them Michigan... or does that not suit your agenda? Tell me, how much New Mexico football have you watched? What, exactly, do you know about Rocky Long. Maybe Rick would care to enlighten you on the subject? I get a bit tired of having to educate you about football played from the Rockies westward. BTW-that comment was made about BOTH USC and Utah... At least you didn't try to go after USC's defense... Either way, they both had a better defense than Oklahoma.
Quite certain that USC had a better defense than Utah and Oklahoma but I would like to see if the Trogs could hold Oklahoma....the highest scoring team in the history of college football....to 14 points. That 3-9 team that almost beat Utah in the 4th quarter was indeed Michigan at the start of one of....if not THE worst seasons in their long and storied history. If you can heap scorn on Ole Miss....who beat the snot out of top 10 ranked Texas Tech then why in hell should I respect a 5-7 New Mexico?
Ole Miss has 2 huge wins: Florida and Texas Tech the rest of their wins came against: Memphis, Samford, Arkansas, Auburn, La-Monroe, LSU and Miss State. I'm not the one contending that the SEC sucks. I contend that it is quite human. I'm not laughing at the level of competition Florida played. You, and quite a few of you, have been laughing at the MWC since Utah beat Alabama. Speaking of laughing at level of competition... I think it's time for a new topic. And you don't think USC could hold them to 14 points? LOL........
Not laughing at Utah's schedule Corey. I just don't see where they have done so much that Florida has not done. Winning them all against a schedule that doesn't measure up to Florida's can't convince me. Maybe if they played and beat FSU, Alabama and Oklahoma back-to-back-to-back I would have to reconsider. Don't laugh about how difficult it is to play the Seminoles in Tally one week and go to Atlanta the next and take on unbeaten #1 ranked Bama for the SEC title.
Possible....but after giving up 23 to Stanford and 24 to Penn St not to mention the 27 to OSU I would doubt it seriously. I have to agree it's a great defense but Oklahoma is the greatest offense of all time....or so we were told. Had nothing to do with playing in the Big 12 South....or so we were told. But seriously....the UF defense played a whale of a game to hold them to 14 points and if USC's offense didn't control the ball and the TOP then the pressure on their defense would be tremendous...because I do think OU had a pretty darned good offense.
hey.... weren't you the guy who posted that awesome stat about 'UF's record and scores not counting garbage points?' and you wanna talk about how many points Penn State scored..... You know what is really funny, is that you cited the only 3 games in which the opponent scored in the 20s. Oregon State: 27 Loss Penn State: 24 Blowout win Stanford: 23 blowout win Oregon: 10 blowout win Arizona: 10 close win Virgina: 7 blowout win UCLA: 7 blowout win Ohio State: 3 blowout win Notre Dame: 3 blowout win Cal: 3 solid win ASU: 0 blowout win WSU: 0 blowout win UW: 0 blowout win
What debate? The experts have spoken and the Gators won both polls. Nothing much left to debate this year. We might get started on next season. :wink: :wink: Oh, do see that Corey has already fired that shot over the Gator bow in another topic. :lol: :lol:
Interesting stat from "the game", from an OK paper: "This was a 14-14 game with 12 minutes left. In those final 12 minutes, OU had one first down, 21 total yards and zero points. The Gators had eight first downs, 183 yards and 10 points." http://www.newsok.com/bcs-ou-bites-the-dust-again/article/3336534?custom_click=lead_story_title
Bill, For the record... That shot wasn't going to be fired for months. I was going to let you guys have that day in the sun for as long as you wanted to have it. Your Gators earned it... but since others didn't wanna go that way... why not
Somehow Corey I'm not buying that. I'm not sure what others you are talking about either. But the shot over the bow was a weak one at best. It sure isn't going to deter the Gator Express nor have any effect on what our strength of schedule will be when all is said and done.