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  1. IrishCorey

    IrishCorey Well-Known Member

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  2. IrishCorey

    IrishCorey Well-Known Member

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    here is the article she wrote about the player

    <t>That got Coach Gundy fired up:<br/>
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    STILLWATER — Bobby Reid stood near the team charters last Friday night, using his cell phone, eating his boxed meal.<br/>
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    It would've been normal post-game activity but for one thing.<br/>
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    His mother was feeding him chicken.<br/>
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    Which brings us to the quarterback switch-a-roo at Oklahoma State.<br/>
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    Don't see the connection?<br/>
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    Let me explain. Cowboy coaches have gone full-speed ahead with the Zac Attack, opting to start Robinson over Reid a week ago, then sticking with him against Texas Tech today even after an embarrassing loss at Troy. Weren't we being told just last week that Reid was still the guy? All the weight with which Cowboy coaches were backing Reid has totally shifted to Robinson.<br/>
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    The change seems sudden.<br/>
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    Thing is, it may not be as abrupt as it looks. If you believe the rumors and the rumblings, Reid has been pushing coaches that way for quite some time.<br/>
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    Tile up the back stories told on the sly over the past few years, and you see a pattern that hasn't always been pretty.<br/>
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    Word is that Reid has considered transferring a couple different times, the first as early as 2005. Reid, then a redshirt freshman, was facing competition from returner Donovan Woods, and apparently, Reid considered leaving OSU just because he had to compete for the spot.<br/>
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    Reid's nerves have also been an issue. Earlier this year, he told our Andrea Cohen about his game-day emotions.<br/>
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    "I get sweaty palms. I get the butterflies in my stomach. I sweat lot,” he said then. "I've been playing this game for 15 years. And I can honestly say every game I've played in, I've been nervous. It's not so much me being scared; I just get to a point where I start worrying about a lot of things I can't control.”<br/>
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    A lot of guys get nervous, some even puke before games. How you handle the nerves is important, though, and Reid hasn't always managed them well. He has gotten off to some extremely slow starts, putting the Cowboys in some holes. Some, they dug out of, with Reid often wielding the biggest shovel, and some, they couldn't.<br/>
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    Then, there have been the injuries. No doubt some of Reid's ailments have been severe, including an injured shoulder that required surgery and forced him to redshirt. Other times, though, Reid has been nicked in games and sat it out instead of gutting it out.<br/>
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    Injuries are tricky, of course. You don't want a guy to put himself in harm's way if he's really hurt, and yet, football is one of those sports in which everyone plays hurt. Aches and pains, bumps and bruises are part of the gig.<br/>
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    Reid's injury against Florida Atlantic — whatever it was — appeared minor but just might have been the thing that pushed Cowboy coaches over the edge. Even though Mike Gundy said last week that Robinson got the nod because he had the better week of practice, insiders say that the coaches decided to bench Reid early in the week. The bottom line: The switch is less about Robinson's play and more about Reid's attitude.<br/>
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    "The coaches made a decision,” Reid told our Mike Baldwin after the Troy game. "I just have to go with it, get better and get back on the field.”<br/>
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    There's something to be said for not being a malcontent, but you can almost see Reid shrugging his shoulders as he says those words. Does he have the fire in his belly?<br/>
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    Or does he want to be coddled, babied, perhaps even fed chicken?<br/>
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    That scene in the parking lot last week had no bearing on the Cowboys changing quarterbacks, and yet, it said so much about Reid. A 21-year-old letting his mother feed him in public? Most college kids, much less college football players, would just as soon be seen running naked across campus.<br/>
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    And what of the scene television cameras captured earlier that evening of Reid on the sidelines laughing with assistant strength coach Trumain Carroll? The same cameras showed him throwing his cap in disgust after a missed play earlier, but to be laughing in the final minutes of an embarrassing loss is bad form.<br/>
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    Reid is the most talented quarterback in Payne County, but he hasn't proven that he's the toughest. If you listen to the rumblings and the rumors, Cowboy coaches simply grew weary of it.<br/>
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    Who knows? There might come a day when they grow tired of something Robinson does, but for now, they appear willing to sacrifice a bit of talent for a lot of grit.</t>
     
  3. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    Unfortuneately it's a losing battle to go after the media. I congratulate Coach Gundy for going after the turd that wrote that article. But in the end the media wins, the writer will not be fired or sanctioned, the editor approved publishing it. They'll just make Gundy's life a little more uncomfortable, they have gallons and gallons of ink to print what ever they want to print.

    Only way to hurt the media is an advertiser boycott and canceling your subscriptions. And that won't happen.
     
  4. IrishCorey

    IrishCorey Well-Known Member

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    I hear what you're saying Terry but..

    <t>sometimes its not about winning and losing, its about doing what is right.<br/>
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    Coach Gundy (after a big win btw) did what was right</t>
     
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    Wow! We need more Coach Gundys in the college game.
     
  6. Gator Bill

    Gator Bill Well-Known Member Administrator

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    Wow, congratulations coach, but unfortunately Terry is most likely right.
     
  7. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    As predicted the media will get the last word. MCG's favorite columnist Dennis Dodd weighs on the Mike Gundy press conference.




    Dodd vs Gundy
     
  8. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    Oh yeah and if you read his feedback it's 100% in support of Gundy. Dodd is a hack.
     
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    Everything I've read by Dodd has convinced me that he is a self-appointed hatchet man with an agenda as big as the state of Oklahoma. He's an idiot if he expects reasonable people to agree with his absurd posturing. He's a whore.
     
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    Dodd... Gundy... The scales don't just tip in favor of Gundy, they are permanently broken by the comparison. Dodd should be, but never will be, ashamed of himself.
     
  11. IrishCorey

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    chicken vs egg

    <r>Is she a journalist or a woman first?<br/>
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    Is she beyond criticism for writing an article because she's a woman? Do we have to lay our coat down over her p*ss puddle that she created to cover her tracks because she was confronted for attacking (unjustly) a player for being beaten out?<br/>
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    Gundy's points are valid and its noteworthy if you watch that whole presser, he was applauded by those in the room as he left. I assure you, many were journalists.<br/>
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    Part of this, mi amigos, falls back on YOU the consumer. If you refuse to read, watch or participate in things related to hatchetmen like Dodd... He does go away.<br/>
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    Rather than writing letters supporting Gundy to Dodd... People should write letters to the sponsors and advertisers of those programs that Dodd is affiliated with...letting them know that as a consumer, you no longer intend to use a brand that supports someone who writes attacks on someone who simply defended his player... one of his.<br/>
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    Newspapers and magazines don't make their money in copies sold, they make it in advertising. If that is threatened, they take action.<br/>
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    Freedom of speech is a two way street, sadly, most people aren't willing to do what is needed to protect theirs.<br/>
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    Gundy is standing on higher ground here. He can parlay this into something that will always work in his favor on the recruiting trail.<br/>
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    According to the Dodd, Gundy <QUOTE><s>
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    Dodd also wanted to know what was unfair about the article? If he really needs to know that, then obviously reading comprehension was something he never studied up in his undergrad work.<br/>
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    Gundy can continue to say exactly what he has. He's right. At this point, the media is trying to polish a turd, and the people aren't buying.<br/>
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    Reading the reader responses, only Dodd finds her article 'fair' as if somehow he is the grand-poobah of fairness related to all things journalistic and sports.<br/>
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    The media itself, goes on... Those 'reporters' and columnists have shelf lives and are vulnerable too. They just don't realize it. Dodd shouldn't be calling for people's ouster because they used free speech, the same thing he is trying to hide the reporter behind... well that, and she's a woman.<br/>
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    lovely defense, lovely</r>
     
  12. Gator Bill

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    I was going to post the Dodd article, and I agree with all of you and most of the people responding to him that he is a hack/jerk.

    Good for Gundy.
     
  13. IrishCorey

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    One more thing

    <r>Shifting from the defensive and moving onto attack mode..<br/>
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    I want to know why Dodd chose to single out the author's gender when making his hyperbolic allegation that Gundy 'attacked' her.<br/>
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    Its people like this, who set back women's rights 100 years.. Do we have separate standards for accountability for women than we do men? Can we, from what we have now established using his own words, anxiously await Dodd's future articles regarding the 'extra muscle that african americans have that make them better athletes?'<br/>
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    Either she is a journalist who stands behind her work, or a woman that hides behind her skirt and archaic morays that have vanished (supposedly) from the American workplace in the past 20 years.<br/>
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    Dodd's an asshat.<br/>
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    And for those of you who need a visual on that<br/>
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    <IMG src="http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa231/shellbone40/asshat1.jpg"><s>[​IMG]</e></IMG></r>
     
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    It's interesting to me that after a couple of days the media everywhere with its typical follow-the-leader mentality is trying to paint the coach as a lunatic or a Bobby Knight clone, but the media is being soundly beaten back by public opinion that overwhelmingly favors the coach. Cool!
     
  15. Terry O'Keefe

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    Problem is that the media gets to have it's say and you don't have to dig for it, the support for the coach you have to dig through to see how overwhelming it is.
     
  16. IrishCorey

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    like i said

    <t>write the sponsors of the show/column/magazine/newspaper what have you:<br/>
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    tell them you no longer plan to use their product, or any affiliate of theirs and that you are passing the word.<br/>
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    Everyone has a boss. Everyone.</t>
     
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    What newspaper does she write for? I haven't seen it anywhere.
     
  18. IrishCorey

    IrishCorey Well-Known Member

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